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Michael Steele speaks with Elie Mystal roughly one week after the re-election of Donald Trump. They discuss what they anticipate from the next Trump term, what makes 2024 different from 2016, how Black men did, in fact, show up for Kamala Harris (and white women didn't) and how Merrick Garland failed to bring Trump to trial. If you enjoyed this podcast, be sure to leave a review or share it with a friend! Follow Elie Mystal @ElieNYC Follow Michael @MichaelSteele Follow the podcast @steele_podcast Follow The Bulwark @BulwarkOnline 00:00 Cold Open 0:02:21 Interview Begins 0:04:17 Predictions on What the Trump Administration Will Bring 0:08:34 Who Is Safe After the Election? 0:17:34 "America Will Always Tell You What She Wants" 0:19:35 Why 2024 Is So Different Than 2016 0:22:41 How Immigrants Perceive Trump and Immigration 0:25:08 The Conversations Happening in White Networks vs. Black Networks 0:25:35 The Democratic Party Is Reliant on Black Women 0:29:01 "We've Been Screwed By White Women" 0:31:26 Black Men Did Show Up for Kamala Harris 0:36:48 2028 Will Not Be a "Regular" Election 0:46:12 Elon Musk, Peter Thiel and David Sacks 0:49:12 Merrick Garland Failed to Bring Trump to Trial 🔥 Get 30 days of Bulwark+ absolutely free: https://thebulwark.com/freetrial