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You can be physically ready for anything. But if your inner game isn't trained, you're leaving everything on the table. I learned that the hard way competing in CrossFit — and my guest today, Rubina Chadha, teaches the exact tools I wish I'd had back then. Rubina is a mindfulness educator and trauma-informed coach who helps burned out founders stop coping and start building a system for their nervous system. In this conversation we cover: Why presence is a practice, not a personality trait The difference between mindset work and embodied regulation — and why one without the other has a ceiling What your five-year-old self can teach you about recovering from stress How to find your reset button without leaving your desk Why structure and intuition aren't opposites — they fuel each other The role of creativity and art in accessing a calmer, clearer state Her take on AI and art — and why she thinks everyone should be creating *Connect with Rubina:* 🌐 Website: http://theinnerdesign.com/ / rubina-c 📸Instagram:www.instagram.com/theofficialrubina --- *🔗 Stay Connected* If this episode resonated and you want more conversations about business, leadership, movement, and sustainable success, you can find me here: 🌐 Website: [https://www.leslieboyce.com](https://www.leslieboyce.com) 📸 Instagram: [ / leslieboyce ]( / leslieboyce)_ 📝 Substack: [https://leslieboyce.substack.com](https://leslieboyce.substack.com) ✉️ Email: [leslie@thefitnessofbusiness.com](mailto:leslie@thefitnessofbusiness.com) I share weekly insights, behind-the-scenes reflections, and resources for business owners who want to grow without burning out. Chapters: 00:00 The Inner Game of Performance 02:12 The Journey to Mindfulness 06:43 Finding Presence in Chaos 11:31 Understanding Our Inner Lifeguard 14:55 Recognizing Subtle Stress Signals 19:20 The Cost of Productivity 22:16 Bridging Ancient Wisdom and Modern Science 27:07 The Resistance to Embodied Experience 30:33 Trusting the Process of Change 32:10 The Power of Practice and Authenticity 33:45 Balancing Structure and Intuition 35:35 The Importance of Foundation and Recovery 37:42 Understanding Energy and Self-Care 39:34 The Journey of Motherhood and Self-Refueling 41:49 Recognizing Personal Needs and Habits 43:46 Reconnecting with Childhood Joys 45:39 The Role of Creativity in Well-Being 50:46 Exploring AI in Art and Creativity 56:42 Embracing Technology and Human Connection