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A wide ranging conversation with Nicolette Hahn Niman who has been in the food system for a while, starting as a lawyer working with Robert F Kennedy jr, lobbying against pollution from the meat industry to finally become a rancher and write the book Defending Beef, The Ecological and Nutritional Case for Meat (Chelsea Green Publishing). Nicolette Hahn Niman is the author of Righteous Porkchop and Defending Beef, and has written for numerous publications, including the New York Times, Los Angeles Times, HuffPost, and The Atlantic online. She lives on a ranch in Northern California with her husband, Bill Niman, and their two sons. What is the role animals play in the ecosystem? Why are animals an indispensable part of regeneration? How should we measure the health of an ecosystem? How should we approach the issue of affordability as a society? ——— In Investing in Regenerative Agriculture and Food podcast show we talk to the pioneers in the regenerative food and agriculture space to learn more on how to put our money to work to regenerate soil, people, local communities and ecosystems while making an appropriate and fair return. Hosted by Koen van Seijen Find out more on https://investinginregenerativeagricu... Support our work on: https://investinginregenag.gumroad.com Discover the video course: https://investinginregenerativeagricu... Our other social accounts: / 35633822 / invest_regenag