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Ted Dabrowski, Illinois Republican candidate for Governor, in Part 2 of his Public Affairs interview with host Jeff Berkowitz, expands his case for defeating Governor JB Pritzker by arguing the state has become “extreme” on core quality-of-life issues—and that a broad coalition of Republicans and independents can be built around normalizing Illinois governance. Dabrowski frames the race less as an ideological debate and more as a referendum on daily life: jobs, taxes, schools, and public safety—arguing that these fundamentals now outweigh most other political considerations for many voters. A major focus is jobs and out-migration. Dabrowski contrasts Illinois’ weak private-sector job growth under Pritzker with faster-growing states like Texas and Florida, and he points to the departure of major corporate headquarters and high-profile employers as evidence of deeper economic dysfunction. Dabrowski argues Illinois’ crisis is severe enough that it should be politically easy to prosecute the case against Pritzker—if the Republican nominee can credibly appeal to suburban and independent voters. He says a key advantage he brings is policy fluency: after years in public policy, he claims he can challenge Pritzker directly on debate-stage talking points, from population trends to tax claims to education “success” narratives that ignore literacy outcomes. Berkowitz presses Dabrowski on coalition-building inside the primary and the general election. Dabrowski argues his campaign is supported by a broad donor base that includes downstate conservatives and Chicago-area reform-minded donors motivated by school choice, crime concerns, and restoring a “thriving” Chicago. The discussion highlights the symbolic impact of Citadel’s exit, with Dabrowski framing it as a loss of investment, talent confidence, and philanthropic capacity that should have stayed in Illinois. Dabrowski uses that example to argue that Democratic leadership has become hostile to pro-growth, pro-safety priorities and dismissive of critics rather than responsive to warning signs. The interview then shifts into “culture” and social policy, where Dabrowski argues Illinois has moved far outside “Midwestern values.” He criticizes policies involving parental notification, transgender-related issues in schools, and “biological males in girls sports,” arguing schools should refocus on literacy and numeracy rather than cultural agendas. On abortion, Dabrowski describes Illinois as unusually permissive and says he opposes public funding of abortions and identifies as pro-life, stating he believes life begins at conception. He argues the political challenge is not moving Illinois to an extreme, but moving it back toward where he believes the public sits—invoking the older framing of “safe, legal, and rare” as a midpoint Illinois has left behind. A substantial final segment centers on immigration, sanctuary policy, and public order. Dabrowski argues Illinois’ sanctuary status creates public safety and enforcement problems by limiting cooperation with federal immigration detainers—forcing ICE to pursue targets in the community rather than transferring custody directly from local jails. He claims this increases tension on the streets and makes clashes more likely. Dabrowski further argues Pritzker inflames conflict by using hostile rhetoric toward federal law enforcement, and he says that rhetoric contributes to public disorder when enforcement actions occur. Dabrowski’s stated alternative is day-one cooperation: end sanctuary status, honor ICE detainers for individuals in custody, and reduce the need for street-level enforcement confrontations. Dabrowski closes by returning to his campaign’s central theme: “quality of life.” He argues many Illinois residents can no longer confidently say they are better off, safer, or able to keep up with taxes and living costs. He claims there is enough shared frustration across Chicago, the suburbs, and downstate Illinois to form a “50% plus one” coalition capable of defeating Pritzker, and he positions his candidacy as a comprehensive reset aimed at restoring affordability, safety, jobs, and normalcy in Illinois governance. Hashtags: #PublicAffairsTV, #PublicAffairswithJeffBerkowitz, #JeffBerkowitz, #IllinoisPolitics, #IllinoisGovernorRace, #ILGOV, #IllinoisGOP, #GOPPrimary, #TedDabrowski, #JBPRitzker, #Jobs, #EconomicGrowth, #OutMigration, #HeadquartersRelocation, #Citadel, #SchoolChoice, #Crime, #PublicSafety, #QualityOfLife, #AbortionPolicy, #ProLife, #TaxReform, #PropertyTaxes, #Literacy, #EducationReform, #SanctuaryState, #SanctuaryCity, #ImmigrationPolicy, #ICE, #FederalEnforcement, #MidwesternValues