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In this thought-provoking episode, I sit down with Laura Cardwell and Meghan O’Malley, co-founders of Embodied Leadership by Design and authors of Unstuck Yourself. Their work blends neuroscience, human design, and embodied practices to help people move beyond the “packets” of mental issues they’re dealing with and into authentic, heart-centered leadership. Meghan shares how growing up in a family that prized achievement left her chasing productivity at the expense of authenticity—until she learned to embrace her seeker’s path and trust her body’s wisdom. Laura reflects on raising two children with intention while navigating her own burnout, and how aligning with her deeper purpose allowed her to parent and lead with more presence. Together, Laura and Meghan describe how their partnership began in a hip-hop dance class, grew through their podcast Two Mystics and a Mic, and eventually crystallized into a company that helps individuals and organizations reclaim true leadership—whether in business, family, or community life. Their message is both practical and profound: every person is a leader, and living that truth requires courage, purpose, and self-awareness. “If following the path people told you feels wrong, it probably isn’t right for you.” — Meghan O’Malley “Seeking a deeper purpose stabilizes everything else.” — Laura Cardwell Connect with Veronica: https://capstrata.com/ / veronica-malolos-ccim-401649218 Connect with Meghan and Laura: https://www.embodiedleadershipbydesig... https://www.unstuckyourselfbook.net/ / embodiedleadershipbydesign