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In this episode, MailChannels CEO Ken Simpson sits down with Rob Seger, CTO of Monarx and former NSA engineer, to explore how malware actually spreads across the internet from shared hosting environments Rob shares what he learned at the NSA, why attackers always win, and why the blast radius of a single false positive can take down a million websites. This episode dives into the hidden mechanics of web-based attacks, PHP’s dark corners, symbolic AI, and the economic forces shaping cybersecurity today. If you work in hosting, cybersecurity, devops, or run a SaaS platform, this conversation is a must-watch. 00:00 The blast radius of a single false positive 01:00 What Rob learned at the NSA 02:00 Tackling infinite problem spaces in cybersecurity 04:20 Defense vs offensive mindset 07:10 The economics behind cybersecurity 09:00 What Monarx actually does 11:00 Why shared hosting is filled with hidden malware 17:00 How Monarx hooks into PHP to detect malicious behavior 25:00 Symbolic AI vs modern ML 32:00 Scaling malware detection to billions of files 40:00 Why hosting providers can’t stop outbound spam 45:00 Final thoughts and industry insights ✅✉️ MailChannels builds email security products for hosting providers to give users a more secure, more reliable email experience. 🎧 Listen to us on: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1iK2OPw... Apple podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... 👋 Connect wth us: Facebook - / mailchannels Instagram - / mailchannels Linkedin - / mailchannels Website - https://mailchannels.com/ Tags: cybersecurity, hosting security, malware detection, PHP vulnerabilities, WordPress security, shared hosting, symbolic AI, machine learning, Monarchs, MailChannels, spam prevention, malware cleanup, CTO interview, developer podcast, tech podcast, NSA cybersecurity