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Baroness Brenda Hale: “The law can do things for you as well as to you.” Lady Hale was given the tabloid nickname 'the spider woman' when, in 2019, she declared Boris Johnson's prorogation of Parliament to be ‘unlawful, void and of no effect’ - and did so wearing an eye-catching spider brooch. She served as the first female president of the UK's supreme court. She was the first woman, and the youngest person, to be appointed to the Law Commission. In 2004, she became the UK’s first woman law lord. In the Speakeasy, she talks with Shami about keeping justice working for everyone, not just the powerful. The pair also talk about what happens when we forget that the law protects as well as punishes, and why leaving the European Convention on Human Rights would be a disaster for ordinary people. And, as a prominent 'first woman', what does it mean to hold the door open for the women who come next? Baroness Brenda Hale's book With The Law on Our Side is out now and published by Penguin. Find it in your local independently-owned book store or online here. Shami's Speakeasy home and mailing list sign up. Contact the Speakeasy by email: [email protected] Bluesky TikTok Instagram YouTube SPONSORSHIP: Are you an ethical, values-based company, campaign group or charity who would like to support the Speakeasy and reach new audiences? Then get in touch [email protected] Shami's Speakeasy is a Bespoken Media Scotland production for Chaotic DoGooders. This episode was produced and edited by Ailish Hunter. Artwork by Josh Moir.