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Coopers' Code | Podcast | Episode 142: The Lawyer with a Programmer’s Mindset, with Todd Schneider In Part 1 of this two-part conversation on Coopers’ Code, Miles Cooper sits down with Todd Schneider for a deep dive into how elite trial lawyers think about preparation, systems, and execution. Before founding Schneider Wallace Cottrell Kim LLP, Todd supplemented his income during law school as a database programmer. That early exposure to process and systems became a defining advantage when he entered the law as a double threat: a trial lawyer with a programmer’s mindset. That combination shaped not only his litigation practice, but also the development of custom case management software that eventually spun out into Clarra. This episode focuses on Todd’s approach to trial preparation and organization, including evidence mapping, witness sequencing, jury instructions, and building a single, coherent theory of the case. The conversation explores why great trial outcomes are rarely the product of improvisation, and why disciplined systems matter more than individual heroics. Part 1 serves as a practical masterclass on how serious trial lawyers prepare long before trial begins, and how process-driven thinking can elevate both advocacy and results. Subscribe to be notified when Part 2 gets released - a deep dive on trial execution to leadership, culture, and the long-term business of law. More on Todd: Firm bio: https://www.schneiderwallace.com/atto... LinkedIn: / todd-schneider-2b89b110 Clarra: @askclarra | https://clarra.com/ Episode Timestamps: 00:00 From Programmer to Trial Lawyer 02:45 Discovering Trial Advocacy in Law School 04:00 Building Case Management Software in 1993 06:00 Digitizing a Law Firm Before Email Existed 08:40 Paperless Files and Trial Fire Drills 10:00 Clarra: Turning a Law Firm System into a Company 13:00 Calendaring Rules and Automation in Litigation 16:00 From Elmo to Fully Digital Trials 19:00 Tagging Evidence and Building Closing Arguments 24:00 The One Way to Try a Case 28:00 The Hot Seat, Cross Scripts, and Trial Cadence 34:00 Trial Teams, Road Life, and Trying Cases to Verdict Episode Takeaways: Trial success is built through systems, not improvisation . Preparation must be intentional and repeatable Jury clarity matters more than lawyer cleverness Technology should simplify, not distract Great trials are won long before the courtroom Hosted by / coopersllp-miles-cooper Produced by / maurokenjiserra | Kenji Productions: https://www.kenjiproductions.com Recorded & Co-produced by / zachmorvant | https://www.zmorvant.com Music by The Sure Fire Soul Ensemble Rate/Leave a review on: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5em7FpI... Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Questions, comments, feedback and suggestion? Email us at: podcast@coopers.law Read Coopers' Code: https://www.coopers.law/coopers-code/ Read Miles Cooper's articles and publications: https://www.coopers.law/articles/ #lawyerlife #legalinsights #legaleducation