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Karl Vaters talks with Luke Simmons, the pastor of Ironwood Church in Mesa, AZ. Recently, Luke and his church elders decided to pursue a very ambitious goal with the aim of helping their large, growing congregation feel smaller and more connected. As a big-church pastor, Luke is not a typical Church Lobby guest, but he and Karl follow each other on X (formerly Twitter) and when Luke posted about this plan it inspired a lot of questions and curiosity. The plan is for the members of their elder team to have one-on-one meetings with 1,000 church members over coffee or a meal this coming year. If those numbers make you feel like this isn’t for you, give it a chance. Luke has a heart for people, and he’s interested in how to set numerical goals that help us reach non-numerical objectives of discipleship, fellowship, and service. Links: Luke’s original X post about elder meeting goals Luke’s original X post about doing one-on-one meetings Faithful and Fruitful Tim Keller on Leadership and Church Size Dynamics Darrell Stetler’s Sermon Illustrator Follow Luke on X Ironwood Church There are 2 ways to get Bonus Content every week: Subscribe to our newsletter at https://karlvaters.com/subscribe/ Or become a financial partner at https://karlvaters.com/support/