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Tzvi Heber is the CEO of Ascendant New York. He is passionate about 12-step recovery. In this interview with Laurie Watter (Director of Family Relations at All Points North Lodge), he compares and contrasts COVID-19 and addiction, covering the spreads and the solutions. "We've learned very quickly that coronavirus does not care about region, ethnicity, age, demographics, or race. We were also told there is no vaccine or cure for it. When I heard that originally, my mind went straight to this thought, 'As an alcoholic, this sounds way too familiar. Outstandingly familiar.'" Join Tzvi and Laurie as they discuss the 12 steps, coronavirus, connection, leading by example, and more. For a full transcript of this interview, visit: https://apnlodge.com/2020/08/06/addic... For more information on All Points North Lodge, visit: www.apnlodge.com. For more information on Ascendant New York, visit: www.ascendantny.com. If you are a professional and would like to be a featured speaker in our series, email: [email protected].