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LIVE DISCUSSION* "Villains and Heroes" with Thom Pollard (5PM 14 June 2024, EST/NY Time) covering the 1996 Mount Everest disaster and the controversy between Anatoli Boukreev and Jon Krakauer, as well as the deadly allure and mystique of Christopher McCandless's odyssey into the Alaskan wilderness and his untimely death by starvation in Bus 142. TIME STAMPS BELOW I was notified by a viewer about an incorrect statement made in the video, having already moved onto the next thought, and didn't catch myself. I hadn't caught that when mentioning the team that Doug Hansen and Yasuka Namba were on, I apparently said Mountain Madness, which we know is incorrect. They were on the Adventure Consultants team with Rob Hall. Individuals who lost their lives during storm of 1996 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- South/Nepal: Yasuko Namba (client) - Japan Rob Hall (owner Adventure Consultants) - New Zealand Scott Fischer (owner Mountain madness) - USA Andy Harris (guide) - New Zealand Doug Hansen (client) - USA North/Tibet Dorje Morup (Indo-Tibetan Border Police) - India Tsewang Paljor (Indo-Tibetan Border Police) - India Tsewang Samanla (Indo-Tibetan Border Police) - India ============================== Please check out our EXCLUSIVE FREE and paid Patreon content: / everestmystery Please consider becoming a Channel Member for access to Member Perks and to become part of a growing community: / @everestmystery Here are the two recent videos we will begin discussing in our live feed. Anatoli Boukreev's Controversial Actions in the '96 Everest Disaster • Anatoli Boukreev's Controversial Actions i... Dying to Reach Bus 142 - The Allure of Chris McCandless' Tragic Story • The Magic Bus? The Dark History of INTO TH... TIME STAMPS 00:00 - villain or hero? 01:05 - results of recent Everest mystery poll question 02:15 - relate Everest ‘96 to Gasherbrum II experience in 1996 05:58- Everest ‘96, powerlessness of the guides and the sherpa 08:51 - things that happened on Everest leading up to the storm worth considering 9:24 - Ngawang Topche Sherpa sickness and death 11:03 - Scott Fischer’s personality a factor 12:40 - Scott Fischer and concerns for Pete Schoening 14:01 - lacking in amount of O2 for summit, and strength of teams 16:19 - what it’s like being in the death zone 18:25 - Mountain Madness clients on the edge during descent from summit 20:10 - strength of Jon Krakauer as a client & Boukreev’s agreement with Fischer to descend early as well as to guide without bottled oxygen 25:13 - Lopsang and fixed ropes situation, short-roping Sandy Pittman 28:30 - clients’ responsibility for causing deaths 43:55 - Neil Beidleman’s understanding of Boukreev climbing without O2 55:49 - delays on summit day 58:53 - Chris McCandless and Bus 142 1:01:01 - weakness of Boukreev’s book The Climb v. Jon Krakauer’s Into Thin Air 1:02:12 - Into the Wild book by Krakauer 1:06:47 - relating to Bradford Washburn and Bob Bates escaping Mount Lucania and how they crossed the river to safety 1:09:10 - is Chris McCandless a hero or villain 1:11:40 - Ed Viesturs and David Breashears assisting with rescue after storm on Everest 1:16:40 - would a tragedy like Everest ‘96 be able to happen on Everest today and exploitation on the mountain now with many new operators Sincerely, Everest Mystery