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Bigger models or more parameters will not define AI’s next frontier — it will be defined by trust. As enterprises push agentic AI into decision-making, operations, and customer-facing workflows, the core question has shifted from “What can AI generate?” to “Can we trust what it decides, recommends, or acts upon?” In fact, the recent Agentic AI Futures Index found that only 49% of enterprises have a high degree of trust in AI outcomes, yet only 29% have trust frameworks in place. In this episode of The Next Frontiers of AI, host Scott Hebner is joined by Magnus Revang , the Chief Product Officer at Openstream.ai , to explore why the future belongs to transparent, auditable, multi-agent systems — not single-model black boxes. Few companies have been as vocal or visionary on this point as Openstream.ai, whose work draws heavily on cognitive principles and real-world production deployments across complex, high-risk industries. Our conversation centers on a challenge too often ignored in today’s LLM-driven hype cycle: bad or unverified data doesn’t just create bad outputs, it creates compounding, systemic risk when agents plan, reason, and act autonomously. This warrants a new approach that reframes this as an architectural problem. Trustworthy AI requires: • Rigorous knowledge ingestion and grounding, ensuring agents consume only validated, explainable sources. • Highly specialized agents, each with explicit capabilities, constraints, and accountable reasoning paths • Continuous provenance and explainability, where a traceable justification accompanies every output • A collaboration loop between humans and agents, enabling users to interrogate outputs and improve system performance over time. The result is a fundamentally different vision for agentic AI, one where transparency, accountability, and cognitive diversity become strategic differentiators. For leaders preparing to operationalize AI beyond pilots, this discussion offers a blueprint for building systems that are not only powerful but also reliable, governable, and safe enough for the enterprise. Learn more Openstream.ai: https://openstream.ai More Research: https://thecuberesearch.com/analysts/... Next Frontiers of AI Digest: https://aibizflywheel.substack.com/we... 00:00 - Intro 00:04 - Navigating the Frontier: Building Trust and Transparency in the Future of AI 02:52 - Introduction of Magnus Revang 05:43 - Magnus's Journey in Technology and AI 08:02 - Limitations of LLMs: The Reliability Trap 12:21 - The Importance of High Control and Event-Triggered Systems 23:32 - Combining LLMs and Symbolic AI for Effective Systems 30:18 - The Role of AI Agents in Specific Enterprise Tasks 33:51 - Multimodal Agents and Human Interaction 39:13 - Practical AI Implementation: Strategies and Insights