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What if your users' aha moment isn't learning the product, but the first time they actually export something they made? In this episode of Across The Funnel, Laura Burkhauser, CEO at Descript, breaks down what it really takes to onboard users into creative tools and why the first export is the moment everything clicks. She explains why CEO feedback loops are dangerously long and how that disconnect breeds bad thinking, how her team chose buttons over chatboxes when rolling out AI features, and what separates a real agent from a glorified workflow with a text box. Laura also shares why monetized users stick around while tourists churn, why smaller teams ship better work (not just cheaper work), and how a culture of play is essential for creative companies to thrive. Follow Hyperengage across our social channels and stay up to date with new episodes, insights, and product updates: Linkedin: / the-hyperengage-product Tiktok: / hyperengageio X: https://x.com/Hyperengageio Hyperengage site: https://hyperengage.io/ Join the Hyperengage newsletter: https://hyperengage.io/subscribe Hyperengage Podcast on Substack: https://hyperengage.substack.com Chapters: 00:00 Intro 04:08 CEO feedback loops breed deranged thinking 08:33 Buttons before chatboxes for AI adoption 11:51 Real agents aren't parameterized workflows 17:54 Tourists churn, monetized users stick around 34:38 Smaller teams ship better, not just cheaper 37:38 Creativity requires play, not just grindset Subscribe to Hyperengage on YouTube to catch more founder-level conversations on GTM and post-sales growth.