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pogggg finally ive technically been playing this shot since like september 2021, but i spent majority of 2022 playing UM (and i think i kinda stopped after november 2021's extreme winter failure lol) so like meh, it probably isnt an actual long grind anyway i did a few attempts and practice on and off throughout 2022 (the practice probably helped with the reimu winter/fall LNNNs lol), and this november i decided to actually try and finish it, before i do other categories well i'm happy i finally got it, that's for sure i guess i'll talk about cirno winter a bit now with the winter subshot cirno isnt too bad - she's pretty similar to reimu and marisa in performance (obviously less damage than marisa w/o the shotgun but still) cirno has great stage performance, and with a good subshot like winter, her boss performance is pretty good too her 4p shotgun hits the damage cap, so for non-okina bosses the optimal way to shotgun is to position yourself on the side with 3 icicles missing. make sure not to shotgun too close though or else you'll hit the damage cap anyway - positioning near the boss's health bar should be the most optimal way okina on the other hand has a different hitbox, so you wanna shotgun in the middle while missing one icicle on each side for 3p and lower i think you can just pointblank some notes about the run: on narumi 1st spell i found that you can position yourself a bit on the side while at the bottom middle so that one of the middle icicles will hit narumi. this should help increase the chance of you ending the spell before you have to dodge a 4th wave. i think this really only works with winter though my kill times on halo and scorched earth were kinda suboptimal for halo you can usually end it before the left laser wave reaches you, but i think i just got pushed away cirno has the fastest kill time on scorched earth due to her shotgun (though her visibility is kinda bleh imo) - i guess i got pushed away as well, but cirno has the most leniency when it comes to getting pushed away (which i suppose is demonstrated by the run) snowman was quite generous this time - it's funny b/c in my recent grind all of my runs that reached snowman died to it xd, so its nice to finally get through it