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#anandranganathan #jsaideepak #dharma #civilization #hindu #indianhistory #rammandir #india #bharat #china #religion Anand Ranganathan begins by reflecting on the complexity of defining "civilization" and questions whether there is anything novel to say about a concept that has been discussed for millennia. Drawing on the ideas of Edwin Hubble and Charles Darwin, Ranganathan highlights the universe's expansion and the randomness of human existence, tracing life back to the primordial soup 3.5 billion years ago. He argues that human identity—whether Indian, Persian, or Ethiopian—is a result of arbitrary circumstances, challenging the notion of exclusive pride in one’s civilization.Ranganathan recounts an experience in Ayodhya on January 23, 2024, the day before the consecration of the Ram Temple, where he observed young people dancing in the streets. These youths, unaware of the historical intricacies of the Ram Janmabhoomi movement, were celebrating instinctively. For Ranganathan, this spontaneous act reflects the essence of civilization: a collective effort to rectify historical injustices faced by ancestors. He extends this idea globally, expressing solidarity with marginalized groups like the Aboriginals of Australia or communities in Africa, suggesting that civilization is about universal human justice.Ranganathan also critiques the tendency to elevate one’s cultural figures while denigrating others, referencing an anecdote from a keynote address in Shimla. When he argued that Indian poet Kalidasa surpasses Shakespeare, a woman in the audience accused him of denigrating other cultures. Ranganathan defends the pride in Indian intellectual giants like Kalidasa, Valmiki, and others, arguing that celebrating one’s heritage does not necessitate diminishing others. J. Sai Deepak takes a more metaphysical and structural approach, framing India’s civilizational identity as embroiled in a "metaphysical civil war" rather than a mere clash of ideologies, politics, or regional affiliations. He argues that India, or Bharat, is at a historical juncture where it is grappling with its identity and struggling to project a coherent global consciousness. Deepak describes Bharat’s worldview as a fusion of pantheistic and henotheistic metaphysics, where the divine (Parabrahman) is seen in all things, yet manifests diversely in practice (monotheism in principle, polytheism in action). This metaphysical foundation leads to a sequence: metaphysics shapes culture, culture shapes society, society shapes the state, and the state engages with the world. He introduces the concept of Rita (universal morality) as central to Bharat’s metaphysics, which transitions into dharma (religion/culture), raashtra (society/nation), raja (state), and vishwa (world).Deepak argues that India’s internal conflicts are fundamentally metaphysical, pitting pantheism and henotheism against monotheistic traditions. He suggests that this tension, dating back to the time of Gautama Buddha, has been exacerbated by external influences and internal divisions, such as those that enabled historical invasions like that of Baktiyar Khilji. He warns that without resolving this metaphysical conflict, India cannot project a unified consciousness globally.Deepak critiques India’s current approach to its civilizational identity as ornamental rather than substantive. He highlights the risk of internal divisions and external geopolitical missteps, noting that some of India’s supposed allies may be cultural adversaries. Deepak references “fissiparous movements” funded by entities “east of Russia” (implying China or other powers), which exacerbate India’s internal challenges.Looking ahead, Deepak predicts that the next 10–15 years will see India’s economic rise accompanied by internal and external battles. Internally, India must confront the “Trojan virus” of intolerant traditions within its consciousness, a challenge that has persisted for 2,000 years.