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Mark Oppenheimer and Abdullah Andalusi discuss whether Israel's actions since October 7th amount to justifiable defense or genocide. With perspectives from both sides, the discussion covers Israel's historical context, the intentions and methods of Hamas, and the broader geopolitical implications. 00:00 Introduction and House Rules 01:21 Personal Experience in Egypt 02:32 Introduction of Panelists 04:08 Debate Format and Opening Statements 05:01 Mark Oppenheimer's Argument 12:08 Abdullah Andalusi's Rebuttal 18:45 Back-and-Forth Debate 42:42 Audience Interaction and Moderation 48:51 Audio Issues and Adjustments 49:40 Debate on Israel's Legitimacy and Right of Return 52:47 Legal Principles and Historical Context 56:40 Discussion on One-State vs. Two-State Solutions 59:13 Hamas and Israeli Conflict: Intent and Actions 01:03:05 Genocide Accusations and Civilian Casualties 01:18:40 Q&A Session Begins 01:33:57 Mark's Perspective on Military and Civilian Distinctions 01:36:36 Debate on the Destruction in Gaza 01:38:09 Questioning the Intentions Behind the Conflict 01:39:44 Religious Texts and Interpretations 01:46:07 Proposals for Peace and Future Visions 01:50:25 Citizenship and Right of Return 01:55:04 Global Muslim Activism and Priorities 01:59:48 Historical Parallels and Final Thoughts 02:07:09 Closing Statements and Reflections