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How Stories Shape New Worlds with Din Tolbert

On The Carpenter’s Daughter, hosts Ify Ike and Alexis Confer welcome Din Tolbert, founder of Dean Between the Lines, to discuss names, purpose, and the power of words. Din shares the meaning of his middle name and reflects on how parenting his daughters grounds him, including how to balance discipline with protecting a child’s voice and confidence. The conversation explores “salt of the earth,” highlighting community leaders and organizations expanding cultural fluency and anti-racist education, and Din explains why he aims to be “table salt” that draws people in. He argues that all activism is story and that better stories can create a better world, connecting language to faith, culture, and hip hop. They address concerns about education policy, Title IX, and church responses, ending with a reminder of abundance, community, and intentional language. 00:00 Show Introduction 00:28 Meet Din Tolbert 01:49 Name Meaning Origins 03:07 What Brings Light 06:54 Raising Strong Daughters 13:19 Salt of the Earth 21:12 Words Create Worlds 27:26 Bad Stories Bad Reality 30:57 Politics Vision And Policy 35:00 Brooklyn Roots and Libraries 35:54 Why School Lost Its Joy 36:36 Policy Failures and Policing 38:20 Title IX and Slippery Slopes 40:25 Where Is the Church 43:15 Faith Versus Institution 45:47 Disruption Without a Playbook 57:49 Curiosity and the Long Game 59:17 Parenting as Strategy 01:09:49 Abundance and Final Blessing