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“Collaborative modeling is getting the relevant people into a room to solve a problem or get on the same page about what it is you’re solving and getting some directions for that solution." Evelyn and Gien are the co-authors of “Collaborative Software Design: How to Facilitate Domain Modeling Decisions”. In this episode, we discussed collaborative software design and why we need it in software development. Evelyn and Gien started by explaining the Cynefin framework in software development and the importance of having heuristics for making quick decisions. We then dived deep into discussing what collaborative modeling is, how to get people involved to collaborate, and the important role of a facilitator. We also talked about the socio-technical aspects and skills required in collaborative modeling, in particular, understanding the influence of cognitive bias and ranking. Towards the end, we discussed when we should do a collaborative modeling exercise, how to structure it, and tips for doing it remotely. Listen out for: Quote & Intro - [00:00:00] Career Journey - [00:06:53] Collaborative Software Design - [00:09:28] Complicated vs Complex Problems - [00:12:24] Heuristics - [00:15:07] Collaborating Modeling - [00:19:03] Inviting People to Collaborate - [00:21:20] The Facilitator Role - [00:24:55] Socio Technical Skills - [00:30:10] Cognitive Bias - [00:33:10] The Influence of Ranking - [00:38:51] Collaborative Modelling Structure - [00:47:00] When to do Collaborative Modeling - [00:51:38] Remote Collaborative Modeling - [00:55:34] 3 Tech Lead Wisdom - [00:58:45] _____ Evelyn van Kelle’s Bio Evelyn van Kelle is a strategic software delivery consultant, with experience in coaching, advising, facilitating, and guiding organizations and teams in designing and maintaining socio-technical systems. She blends different techniques, tools and approaches from behavioral and social sciences, collaborative modeling and Domain-Driven Design, to help leadership teams achieve sustainable transformations. Evelyn loves to share her knowledge by speaking at international conferences and meetups. Gien Verschatse’s Bio Gien Verschatse is an experienced consultant and software engineer that specializes in domain modelling and software architecture. As a Domain-Driven Design practitioner, she always looks to bridge the gaps between experts, users, and engineers. As a side interest, she’s researching the science of decision-making strategies, to help teams improve how they make technical and organizational decisions. She shares her knowledge by speaking and teaching at international conferences. When she is not doing all that, you’ll find her on the sofa, reading a book and sipping coffee. Follow Evelyn: LinkedIn – linkedin.com/in/evelynvankelle X – @EvelynvanKelle Website – evelynvankelle.com Follow Gien: LinkedIn – linkedin.com/in/gien-verschatse X – @selketjah Mastodon – @[email protected] Our Sponsor - Tech Lead Journal Shop Are you looking for a new cool swag? Tech Lead Journal now offers you some swags that you can purchase online. These swags are printed on-demand based on your preference, and will be delivered safely to you all over the world where shipping is available. Check out all the cool swags available by visiting https://techleadjournal.dev/shop. And don't forget to brag yourself once you receive any of those swags. Like this episode? ☕ Buy me a coffee – https://techleadjournal.dev/tip 😎 Become a patron – https://techleadjournal.dev/patron 📝 Show notes – https://techleadjournal.dev/episodes/147 Follow @techleadjournal: LinkedIn – / techleadjournal Twitter – / techleadjournal Instagram – / techleadjournal Newsletter – https://techleadjournal.dev