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In this episode, Anders Indset speaks with John Martinis, Nobel Prize–winning physicist (Nobel Prize in Physics, 2025) and one of the key architects of modern quantum computing, recorded at the World Economic Forum in Davos. Martinis reflects on his journey from early superconducting qubit experiments to the landmark quantum supremacy breakthrough at Google, and explains why building a scalable quantum computer is ultimately a systems-engineering challenge where manufacturability matters as much as physics. He shares his perspective on how quantum computing will complement classical computing and AI, why meaningful economic impact will take time, and why progress is likely to be slower – but ultimately deeper – than today’s hype suggests. A focused and personal conversation with one of the scientists who helped turn quantum computing from theory into reality. Episode breakdown: 00:00 Introduction 00:59 Quantum Supremacy 03:57 Engineer vs. Physicist 07:17 The Feynman Moment 11:16 Scaling Quantum Computing 20:42 From Academia to Industry 28:53 Economics of Quantum 36:52 Where the Real Synergies Lie 39:36 Consciousness, Language & the Limits of Computation 55:22 Why Progress Still Matters About John Martinis / john-martinis-5856911a6 https://www.physics.ucsb.edu/people/j... About The Quantum Economy Podcast A series exploring quantum theory, quantum tech, AI, and the evolution of intelligence – and how these forces redefine economy, value creation, and the future of human systems. Learn more: thequantumeconomy.com Contact: podcast@thequantumeconomy.com YouTube: • The Quantum Economy Podcast Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/1Zmq... Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... About Anders Indset Anders Indset is the world’s leading business philosopher and the author of seven international bestsellers. With recent works such as Ex Machina – The God Experiment and The Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI, his thought leadership has expanded far beyond economics and classical philosophy – earning him recognition from leading scientists and technologists, including prominent physicists. As the founder of tomorrowmensch, he invests in breakthrough science and technologies and convenes leading thinkers, investors, and entrepreneurs shaping the future. NEW BOOK The Quantum Economy https://andersindset.com/shop/The-Qua... https://andersindset.com/ https://tomorrowmensch.com/ / andersindset / andersindset http://x.com/andersindset Support & Share If this conversation expanded your perspective on quantum physics, quantum tech, and the future of economy, please: Like, comment, and share it with a fellow quantum enthusiast. Subscribe for future conversations with the thinkers and practitioners shaping the quantum economy. #QuantumPhysics #Consciousness #AndersIndset #QuantumEconomyPodcast #JohnMartinis