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Vox reporter Zack Beauchamp discusses Donald Trump, his followers, and the future of democracy. Support our work. Become a Vox Member today: http://www.vox.com/memberships One thing is clear: The roughly 75 million people who voted for Trump were saying “no” to lots of things. But what were they saying “yes” to? In this excerpt from The Gray Area podcast, Sean Illing and Vox senior correspondent Zack Beauchamp try to figure out whether Trumpism is a movement or just a moment. Is it a political ideology that we’ll reckon with for years to come, or just a collection of whims from the most powerful man in the world? And what does it mean for the country’s political future? Beauchamp is the author of The Reactionary Spirit: How America's Most Insidious Political Tradition Swept the World. It’s a book about democracy and the contradictions and conflicts at the heart of it. https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/tit... Listen to the full conversation. Look for “America’s reactionary moment” from The Gray Area at https://www.vox.com/the-gray-area or wherever you get your podcasts. The Gray Area is a Vox podcast that takes a philosophy-minded look at culture, technology, politics, and the world of ideas. Each week, we invite a guest to explore a question or topic that matters. From the state of democracy, to the struggle with depression and anxiety, to the nature of identity in the digital age, each episode looks for nuance and honesty. Subscribe to our channel and turn on notifications (🔔) so you don't miss any videos: http://goo.gl/0bsAjO Sources and further reading: Zack Beauchamp: https://www.vox.com/authors/zack-beau... Sean Illing: https://www.vox.com/authors/sean-illing