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If you feel like you are constantly yelling, repeating yourself, or "losing your mind" with your high-energy child—you aren't alone, and your child isn't broken. In this episode, Dr. Bethany Bildeau (Dr. B) reveals why what looks like defiance is actually anxiety in disguise. We discuss the "Both/And" of parenting neurodiverse or spirited kids: loving them deeply AND feeling totally overwhelmed by their behavior. Dr. B breaks down the nervous system science behind "challenging behaviors" and shares practical tools (like the Frozen Water Bottle trick!) to move from chaos to connection. ⏱️ Chapters 00:00 - Introduction: Anxiety, High-Energy Kids & Emotional Regulation 01:11 - Dr. B's Childhood: Panic Attacks, Learning Disabilities & Falling Down Stairs 02:00 - "Your Kid's the One That Bit Someone": Getting Those Daycare Calls 03:20 - From Peace Corps Dreams to Behavioral Specialist 04:45 - "You've Been Born, You've Had Trauma": Educational Trauma is Real 07:26 - The Both/And: Doctor with Learning Disabilities & 4-6 Hours of Homework Nightly 10:14 - "Bethany Needs to Sit Down": How Teachers Silenced Her Energy 11:24 - What She Needed: Someone to Value Her Energy & Enthusiasm 14:26 - Parenting High-Energy Kids: Honoring Energy Without Losing Your Mind 19:45 - After-School Meltdowns & Transition Points: Why They Need Movement 21:29 - Move the Furniture: Heavy Work for Regulation 22:51 - The Stairs Trick: 30 Seconds of Exertion = 4 Minutes of Focus 24:58 - Balance Activities for the Whole Classroom (Dopamine, Serotonin, Oxytocin) 27:08 - "Suffering is a Badge of Honor": Why Learning Doesn't Have to Be Painful 31:02 - Making Kids Feel Wanted vs. Just Tolerated 32:56 - The Stance of Safety: Head Tilt, Open Hands & Body Language Secrets 37:02 - How This Work Changed How She Views Adults (From Judgmental to Curious) 40:33 - Difficult Adults Come from Fear: Investigation vs. Reaction 42:16 - What CORE Behavioral Services Offers (Online Courses, Assessments, Training) 43:08 - The Frozen Water Bottle Trick: Instant Regulation for Any Age 45:20 - Bothness in Action: Trauma Survivors Becoming Behavioral Specialists 47:24 - One Next Step: Forgive Yourself, Then Plan How You Want to Show Up 48:42 - How to Stay Regulated in High-Stress Situations 50:50 - Making It Fun: The Both/And of Police Calls & Finding Success in Crisis 52:18 - Ridiculous/Relatable: Little Debbie Swiss Rolls (Frozen) & Eating Contests 54:45 - Outro: Supporting the Show & Rate/Review Call to Action 👤 Guest: Dr. B- seasoned sensory expert and Behaviorist • Website: https://coremethods.wordpress.com • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thebehavior... 🙋♀️ About Me (Nikki P) Therapist-turned-storyteller & nonprofit leader hosting It’s Both — Personal growth for real-life transitions. I help you build emotional intelligence, make kinder decisions, and find peace in the messy middle—without toxic positivity. 🔗 Listen / Follow / Work With Me • Join the Courageous Living Group Transformation: https://janiceholland.thrivecart.com/... • 🎙️ Podcast on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... • 🎙️ Podcast on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7KYLGul... • 📺 Subscribe on YouTube: → / @itsbothpodcast • 📸 Instagram: / itsbothpodcast • 💼 Speaking/partnerships: itsbothpodcast@gmail.com 💬 Try This (Quick Wins) Name the both/and you’re feeling. Set a 10-minute “clarity block” to sit with it. Take one tiny action aligned with your values. 🤝 Support the Show If this helped, subscribe, like, and comment with your biggest takeaway. Share this with someone who’s living in the gray. Rate & review the podcast on Apple—your words help new listeners find us!