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Why Origen Believed in Intercessory Prayer to the Saints

One argument that Protestants like Dr. Gavin Ortlund make is that early Christians like Origen (185-253) denied that intercessory prayers could be made to the Saints. But is that true? It turns out, digging a little deeper reveals a very different picture. Chapters 0:00 - Intro 0:08 - Recap 4:40 - Gavin's argument 4:56 - my preface 7:36 - Gavin on Orgien 9:07 - my response & hermeneutics 10:32 - Gavin on Origen prt2 14:15 - prayer and its species 19:01 - Origen's Trinitarian Theology 21:55 - A helpful chart 23:14 - Gavin on Origen prt3 23:27 - Origen's On Prayer 32:35 - Prayer in The Body of Christ 35:07 - Gavin's response to me 36:38 - Gavin and Estrangement 39:00 - Placation 49:41 - Pagan Origins 57:52 - Gavin's Arguments from Silence 1:00:59 - Parables 1:07:00 - Straw men? 1:14:00 - Patristic argument 1:15:39 - literally no evidence 1:6:50 - where we agree Gavin's Video with transcript:    • Praying to the Saints? No, Origen is ...   CHECK OUT MY NEW BOOK https://www.amazon.com/Eucharist-Real...