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In episode 21 of Driven Women by Cash and Rocket, Nicky Morgan joins Julie Brangstrup for an open, thoughtful conversation about leadership, responsibility, and what it really means to operate inside systems of power. Nicky reflects on her journey from corporate law into senior leadership roles, sharing how early exposure to debate, public service, and law shaped her understanding of responsibility and decision-making. She speaks candidly about the reality behind leadership, explaining why influence is often far more constrained than people imagine, and why progress depends on trust, collaboration, and empowering those closest to the work. The conversation explores what it feels like to carry responsibility during moments of national pressure, and how trust can slowly erode when expectations are raised but delivery falls short. Nicky offers a rare behind-the-scenes perspective on navigating scrutiny, compromise, and resilience, and the emotional toll that comes with operating in demanding public-facing roles. Beyond leadership, this episode dives into Nicky’s work across education, governance, regulation, and culture. She discusses life in the House of Lords, serving on multiple boards, chairing regulatory bodies, and how experience across different sectors has shaped her approach to decision-making and long-term thinking. The discussion also touches on technology, AI, online safety, and regulation, alongside broader reflections on values, integrity, and adapting leadership in a rapidly changing world. Nicky shares thoughtful advice for younger women considering leadership paths, encouraging patience, life experience, and self-trust. She speaks honestly about balance, motherhood, ambition, and the reality that there is no perfect formula, only conscious choices made week by week. This is a grounded, honest conversation about leadership, resilience, and the quiet strength required to break barriers and stay true to your values while working inside complex systems. ⸻ Timestamps 00:00 – Opening reflections on leadership and responsibility 00:53 – Welcome to Driven Women by Cash and Rocket 01:21 – Early influences and interest in public life 02:24 – From corporate law to leadership roles 03:19 – Entering high-responsibility environments 04:15 – The reality behind power and decision-making 05:37 – Empowering others versus holding control 06:58 – Leadership under pressure and public scrutiny 08:47 – Trust, accountability, and long-term impact 10:26 – Life in the House of Lords 11:10 – Governance, boards, and regulation 13:15 – Education, systems, and meaningful change 15:10 – Technology, AI, and online responsibility 16:17 – Integrity and adapting leadership in change 18:52 – Advice to younger women entering leadership 21:16 – Life experience, patience, and self-belief 22:58 – Motherhood, balance, and ambition 25:13 – Values, resilience, and staying grounded 27:55 – Future plans and reflections 32:52 – Final thoughts and closing remarks #DrivenWomen #CashAndRocket