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Leaving the Cult w/ Richard Grannon

What happens when you leave a cult—but the cult is still running a program in your mind? In this episode, Mark Vicente sits down with author and trauma educator Richard Grannon to explore the long tail of coercive control. They talk about the psychological residue that lingers after you’ve exited—whether it’s from a high-control group, a toxic relationship, or a narcissistic parent. They dive into: • Why so many survivors still feel loyal to their abuser • How cult leaders get internalized as “voices” in your head • The danger of anti-victim rhetoric and spiritual gaslighting • Narcissistic defenses and why people minimize their own abuse • The importance of grief, humility, and moral clarity in healing This isn’t just about cults. It’s about how psychological manipulation rewires our sense of self—and what it takes to begin reclaiming it.    / @richardgrannon     / richard.grannon   Explore our course on cult dynamics and narcissistic abuse: https://members.richardgrannon.com/na... Listen to the episode with Karen, a former NXIVM member of 40 years:    • 40 Years Under His Spell: Waking Up from N...   00:00 - Intro: Richard Grannon joins Mark in Lisbon 03:11 - Introjects, superego injunctions & splitting explained 06:15 - Internalized beliefs: good, bad, or just implanted? 09:18 - Infantilization in cults & narcissistic dynamics 12:20 - “Victim consciousness” as a control tactic 15:26 - Why humility is the first step in healing 18:28 - What you didn’t know then matters now 21:35 - Guilt, false diagnoses, and internalized blame 24:36 - Human nature, biology & uncomfortable truths 27:37 - Why cult leaders isolate their inner circle The views and opinions expressed on WTF is on my Mind?! do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of the podcast or Mark Vicente. Any content provided by guests are of their opinion and are not intended to malign any religion, group, club, organization, business individual, anyone or anything. Patreon:   / markvicente   Website: www.markvicente.com Instagram:   / markvicente   X: https://x.com/markvicente TikTok:   / mark_vicente   Facebook:   / markvicente