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Mr Limbi Thungwa and Mr Kiimshey speak about how the Wihu song is learned and sung. It is not learned by sitting and teaching, rather they said that they would hear their elders singing, and listen, and keep it in their heart, and in this way it is learned. It is at least in part from memory, not composed at the moment. What they sing is from long back. Then they discussed about mad people. Mr Ninshom Chena asked how when people became mad, they were not locked up, but the Pangwa people The answer was that because they kill people and burn houses, so they are locked up. In Longxlü village (in Burma), near to Pangsau, from there one Datok tribe (similar to Lochhang) became so crazy that he tried to kill one old lady, but he could not so he came down and killed 3 Chena people. The Langching (Lochhang) believe that the Kimsing (Chamchang) killed him, but they did not. They believe he may have been drowned in the Takyem river (visible, as is the village, on the Putao map at 115 366). Because of this incident Longxlü village was divided, some came to India, some to elsewhere, some remain. This was recorded by Stephen Morey and Ninshom Chena at Injan village, 13th November 2013