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As the U.S. swings a budgetary axe at the federal government, one of the biggest casualties is climate science. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) faces a brutal 20% workforce reduction—jeopardizing critical research just when we need it most. So, what’s really at stake? And is Donald Trump Making America Dumb Again? This week on Cleaning Up, host Bryony Worthington takes us deep inside the Scripps Institution of Oceanography, where scientists are on the front lines of tracking our planet’s most urgent environmental challenges. Meet Ralph Keeling, the scientist carrying forward his father’s legendary legacy—the Keeling Curve, the definitive record of our atmosphere’s rising carbon dioxide levels. His decades of meticulous measurements lay bare the stark truth about climate change and why these long-term observations are more vital now than ever. And that’s not all. We also sit down with Professor Ray Weiss, the atmospheric detective who played a key role in saving the ozone layer. His work helped drive the Montreal Protocol—one of humanity’s greatest environmental victories. With climate science under attack, what lessons can we learn from past successes? And what happens if we stop listening to the data? Leadership Circle Cleaning Up is supported by the Leadership Circle, and its founding members: Actis, Alcazar Energy, Davidson Kempner, EcoPragma Capital, EDP of Portugal, Eurelectric, the Gilardini Foundation, KKR, National Grid, Octopus Energy, Quadrature Climate Foundation, SDCL and Wärtsilä. For more information on the Leadership Circle, please visit https://www.cleaningup.live. Links: Scripps Institution of Oceanography: https://scripps.ucsd.edu/ The Keeling Curve: https://keelingcurve.ucsd.edu/ The Keeling Curve Foundation: https://www.keelingcurve.org/ AGAGE (The Advanced Global Atmospheric Gases Experiment): https://www-air.larc.nasa.gov/mission... History of the Montreal Protocal: https://www.unep.org/ozonaction/who-w... Chapters 00:00 - Intro 03:21 - Who is Ralph Keeling? 05:17 - Establishing the Keeling Curve 09:30 - The Mauna Loa Station 15:18 - Parts Per Million in 2025 18:40 - Why Measure Oxygen 21:13 - Trees As A Carbon Sink 25:45 - How to Measure Oxygen 29:30 - How Do We Plateau CO2? 32:30 - Do We Need to Intervene? 36:00 - The Importance of Climate Data 42:20 - Introducing Ray Weiss 43:13 - Nitrous Oxide as Ozone Deleter 47:30 - Finding the Ozone Hole 50:45 - Policing the Montreal Protocol 55:00 - Fixing Chinese CFC Emissions 58:00 - Why the US Took The Lead 01:02:47 - Outro