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Bret speaks with Nina Teicholz on the subject of seed oils. Find Nina Teicholz on X at https://x.com/bigfatsurprise and on Substack at https://unsettledscience.substack.com. Mentioned in this episode: The Big Fat Surprise: Why Butter, Meat and Cheese Belong in a Healthy Diet by Nina Teicholz https://amzn.to/3WzaSYh (commission earned) ***** This episode is sponsored by: Masa Chips: Delicious chips made with corn, salt, and beef tallow—nothing else—in loads of great flavors. Go to http://masachips.com/DarkHorse, use code DarkHorse, for 25% off. Fresh Pressed Olive Oil Club: Scrumptious & freshly harvested. Go to http://www.GetFreshDarkHorse.com to get a bottle of the best olive oil you’ve ever had for $1 shipping. Prima is offering 20% off their fantastic bars. Go to http://EatPrima.com/DarkHorse to get 20% off. Try Prima ancestral protein bars today! ***** Join DarkHorse on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: https://darkhorse.locals.com Check out the DHP store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: https://www.darkhorsestore.org Theme Music: Thank you to Martin Molin of Wintergatan for providing us the rights to use their excellent music. ***** Timestamps: 00:00:00 Welcome Nina Teicholz to DarkHorse 00:09:16 Defining Trans Fats 00:19:34 The History of Replacing Animal Fats in American Kitchens 00:29:35 Eat Mostly Plants? 00:34:26 The Nutrition Transition & Heart Disease 00:43:44 The American Heart Association 00:46:00 Why Did Americans Switch to Seed Oils? 00:54:57 Oxidation vs. Smoke point 01:02:00 Clinical Trials Associating Seed Oils with Cancer 01:05:58 Where is the Research on Seed Oils? 01:10:37 Big Food Companies’ Influence on Nutrition 01:16:40 The Problems with Nutrition Studies 01:22:03 Enormous Studies on Saturated Fats: “The Golden Age of Nutrition Research” 01:28:30 The Outcome of Going Against the Prevailing Wisdom 01:35:00 The Question Is: Who is Really Pulling the Strings Here? 01:36:45 Bret Weinstein Thinks You Should Start with This Question 01:39:17 The Low Carb & Ketogenic Diets 01:42:49 Public vs. Private Opinions & The Vegan Diet 01:54:59 Government Policy Has Created the Obesity Epidemic 01:57:26 Take Action: How to Restore Your Health 02:04:36 Closing with Nina Teicholz