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What if retirement wasn’t the finish line… but your next leadership chapter? In this episode, I sit down with Lisa Ferrell (LisaListen.com); speaker, coach, author, and community builder — to talk about what she and her husband call “Retirementality”: a purposeful way to design retirement with structure, meaning, and freedom. Lisa shares her journey from a 33-year corporate career in broadcasting to building a coaching business, hosting sold-out community events, and expanding her capacity to serve others. We talk about the real emotional side of transitions: the identity shift, the discomfort, and the powerful reframe that changes everything, you’re not starting over, you’re starting again. If you’re approaching retirement, already in it, or you’re an entrepreneur wondering what the next phase could look like… this conversation will land. In this episode, we cover: How Lisa reinvented herself after a long corporate career Why communication is the #1 breakdown in business and relationships What “capacity” looks like when you’re building a life in service How to create retirement with purpose, structure, and flexibility Why growth is uncomfortable — and why you still do it Using AI without fear: “Just do it” and build confidence through reps The bridge from work identity → next chapter identity Connect with Lisa: LisaListen.com If you’re navigating retirement (or preparing for it) and want support building your bridge with clarity and structure, connect with me here and check the show notes. 👍 Like, subscribe, and share this with a friend who’s contemplating their next chapter.