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Michael Steele speaks with CNN correspondent and Emmy and Peabody award-winning journalist, Elle Reeve about her new book, "Black Pill: How I Witnessed the Darkest Corners of the Internet Come to Life, Poison Society, and Capture American Politics." The pair discuss how internet subcultures have contributed to the rise of white nationalism and the role social media plays in shaping people's thoughts and ideologies. Plus, what it's like confronting white supremecists face-to-face and how young people get sucked into extremist movements. If you enjoyed this podcast, be sure to leave a review or share it with a friend! Follow Elle Reeve @elspethreeve Follow Michael @MichaelSteele Follow the podcast @steele_podcast Follow The Bulwark @BulwarkOnline 00:00 Cold Open 0:01:46 Interview Begins 0:05:09 How a Site for Memes Turned Into a Far Right Community 0:10:43 The Smart People Behind Far Right Internet Communities 0:18:47 How the Internet Shapes Young Minds 0:22:37 The Charlottesville Protest 0:23:10 Confronting White Nationalists Face-to-Face 0:25:59 People of Color Joining White Nationalist Movements 0:28:56 How Women Get Sucked into Extremist Movements 0:29:59 The Intersection of Incel Ideology and White Nationalism 0:35:06 How the Far Right Projects Masculinity onto Donald Trump 0:39:27 The Attempted Assassination of Donald Trump 0:43:27 What Nationalist Groups Looked Like Before the Internet 0:57:44 Guiding Young People Away from Extremist Movements 🔥 Get 30 days of Bulwark+ absolutely free: https://thebulwark.com/freetrial