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Captive vs non captive spokes. The latest moral panic in wheel design. There is a growing push from certain corners of the internet to ban non captive spoke systems on the basis of safety. The argument sounds simple. If the spoke cannot fall out, the wheel must be safer. Job done. Except engineering is not that simple. In this video I go through the actual mechanics of both systems. How a captive spoke hub works, how a non captive system behaves under loss of tension, and what really has to happen for a catastrophic wheel failure to occur. I also explain why modern aerodynamic requirements are pushing spoke widths far beyond what most captive systems can physically accommodate, and why that matters if you actually care about performance. There are trade offs here. Captive designs do offer a retention mechanism. But they also impose hard geometric limits on spoke width, introduce more complex hub flange geometry, and can create local stress raisers. Non captive systems are simpler, more flexible, and allow the use of wider bladed spokes that are increasingly important for aerodynamic efficiency. And before anyone starts shouting “safety”, we have just seen a very public failure in the pro peloton. A hookless rim failure at Omloop Het Nieuwsblad where the tyre blew off and spokes were pulled out in the process. That was not a captive vs non captive spoke debate. That was a system level design failure involving rim, tyre interface and load case. Article reference here: https://www.cyclingnews.com/cycling-t... As always, the correct answer is not regulation driven hysteria. It is understanding the design envelope, the load cases, the materials and the failure modes. Then choosing the solution that is fit for purpose. If you want to ride captive spokes, fine. If you want non captive, also fine. Just do not pretend one is magically immune to bad engineering. If you enjoyed the video, hit like. If you did not, go do one. 00:00 Intro and the captive vs non captive debate 00:28 What a captive spoke hub is 00:52 What a non captive system is 01:24 Lacing patterns and geometry differences 02:25 How the spoke head and flange interface works 02:57 Failure modes and retention differences 03:33 The safety argument examined 04:07 Aerodynamic limitations of captive systems 04:57 T head and slotted spoke solutions 05:56 Practical limits on spoke width and aero direction 06:24 Manufacturing, stress raisers and crack risk 06:52 Conclusion Image credit for the thumbnail: Tim de Waele from Cyclingnews. Linked above You can support my journalistic career on Patreon / hambini I'm also on Facebook and Instagram / hambinieng / hambinieng Website https://hambini.com Discount codes: https://www.hambini.com/hambini-bicyc...