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When invited to a live-stream with Al Fadi a few weeks ago Jay was asked what his newest research was on, and he shared with Al Fadi the result of two years of studies by the UK based scholar Dr. Pat Andrews on the EXTANT MANUSCRIPTS concerning everything we know from the Islamic Traditions. In order to know who Muhammad was, including what he did and what he said, Muslims are required to go to a total of 4 genres of books which include his biography (known as the Sira), his sayings (known as the Hadith), the history of that which pertains to Islam (known as the Tarikh), and the Commentaries on the Qur'an (known as the Tafsir). It is these books which help Muslims know how to walk, talk, eat, drink, sleep; basically how to live their daily lives. They are second in importance, after the Qur'an, because they follow the example of their prophet Muhammad himself, who is their universal paradigm for everything they do. So, these compilations are very important. The problem is that while they are all about Muhammad's example, none of them were written while Muhammad was living, nor even in the same century that he lived (i.e. the 7th century), nor really even in the century which followed (i.e. the 8th century), therefore they were not compiled by anyone who saw what he did, or heard what he said; therefore, none of them were eyewitnesses. Now this is nothing new. All of us have known that the origins of Islam were first created and introduced in the 9th and 10th centuries by men like Ibn Hisham (833 AD), al Waqidi (835 AD), Al Bukhari (870 AD), Al Tabari (924 AD) and others, proving that everything we know about this prophet and how Islam began did not come from any eyewitnesses at all! It is well known in academia that everything about early Islam came from later redactions written by men 200 - 300 years after the fact, taken from 'oral traditions' which were simply passed down by "word-of-mouth"! That's bad enough; yet, even that assertion is now incorrect, because we can't find even ONE EXTANT DOCUMENT from any of these later 9th - 10th century writers...NOT ONE! By Extant, we mean documents which we physically can look at today, somewhere in the world, and which we can date. In this brief interview Jay explains when these earliest extant documents begin to appear, and you are not going to believe just how late they are. You can see the original interview here on Cira International: • New Research Puts Doubt To Muhammad's Exis... In a few days Jay will upload another video where he walks through, using timelines, to show you exactly when these earliest EXTANT documents were created, which will prove that the Muhammad everyone seems to know about is not anyone living in the 7th century, but a much later, in fact possibly 400 - 900 years later redaction, created not by the Umayyads, but possibly by the late Abbasids or even the Ottomans, so that the modern Muhammad Muslims follow today, is mostly an invention of these much later Muslims, created to give authority to their political needs during their reigns. © Pfander Centre for Apologetics & Polemics - US, 2018 (117,530)