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What does it really mean to live a cross-shaped life when obedience costs more than you expected? Sitting back down with John Velsor - senior pastor, leadership coach, and passionate advocate for transformation in families and leaders - we dive deeper into the pillars of belief and obedience through one of John’s personal seasons. John shares how a painful season of betrayal led to anxiety, panic attacks, and what he describes as a “dark night of the soul”. But in the middle of the chaos, God met him with a deeper invitation: to live the cruciform life, shaped by the cross—hands surrendered to God and arms open in sacrificial love toward others. Together, we talk about why pursuing the right community matters, how to return to your “base” when you get blindsided, and why the turning point in healing often comes when you can not only forgive—but bless the people who wounded you. If you’re in a hard season and wondering where God is in it—or what obedience looks like when it costs you—this conversation will strengthen your faith and remind you: the dark night may not be an interruption… it might be an invitation.