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I got lucky to have Dr. de Grey talk to me about his mathematics research and his academic life in general. In 2018, he proved that the chromatic number of a plane should be at least 5. The original paper can be found here: https://arxiv.org/abs/1804.02385 You can contact Aubrey via this email: aubreydegrey@mail.com (00:00) - who is Aubrey de Grey ? (01:07) - Aubrey on his background (02:27) - why Aubrey became an independent scientist ? (03:40) - how did he get PhD without being a student ? (06:35) - how to succeed in your PhD research ? (09:26) - Aubrey’s thesis was a book on mitochondria (11:50) - How to understand Aubrey’s longevity research ? (12:33) - What is Hadwiger- Nelson problem ? (13:57) - Aubrey on the history of H-N problem (15:44) - Why did he choose to study the CNP problem ? (18:32) - How to get an “outsider” view on a problem ? (20:37) - Aubrey’s proof in detail (30:09) - Aubrey worked on twin primes also… (31:51) - Is computer a bad method of proof ? (36:38) - How can we solve the CNP problem ? (42:09) - Aubrey’s next project in mathematics ? (45:55) - Aubrey’s idea for perfect cuboids ! (51:10) - How Aubrey finds collaborators (53:30) - Aubrey gave 1000 interviews ??? (59:53) - A hard problem Aubrey solved as a student