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"The same Old Broken Engine" is a SCAPEGOAT people are using (perhaps unwittingly) to take the blame off Bethesda's developers themselves, the real culprits in the buggy, glitchy, ugly, messes that have been resulting from otherwise enjoyable Bethesda sandboxes for years. I've enjoyed every game from Morrowind, Oblivion, Fallout 3, Skyrim, and Fallout 4 in different ways (Mostly due to modding). But, Bethesda problems arn't present in other games that use very similar tools. Bethesda problems are Bethesda problems. Telling them to get a new engine isn't going to fix Bethesda Problems. I'll also explain why despite whatever PR says on the outside, internally I suspect they have NO PRIDE AS DEVELOPERS. NetImmerse Did Nothing Wrong. NetImmerse 2.0 aka Gamebryo Did Nothing Wrong. NetImmerse 3.0 aka Gamebryo 2.0 aka The Creation Engine Did nothing Wrong.