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Friendship is one of the topics we get asked about most, so we brought back Dr. Marisa Franco, one of the world’s leading voices on human connection. We dive straight into the heart of modern friendship and start with something that influences every relationship we have: attachment styles. Marisa explains how these patterns begin in childhood, how they show up differently in adulthood, and why none of us fit neatly into one category. She also breaks down why avoiding the anxious or avoidant parts of ourselves can actually limit the growth we want in our friendships, and why attachment styles truly can evolve over time. We explore one of the biggest questions we hear from listeners: if you tend to be anxious or avoidant, do you end up attracting friends with the same tendencies? Marisa shares one of her biggest challenges in her research—secure people continue to find each other easily, while those who struggle with connection often repeat the same patterns with similar types of friends. Since many of you are new moms or navigating school-aged seasons, we ask Marisa what to do when a friend needs more from you than you can realistically give. She reminds us that it’s okay to say no and that saying no with kindness helps preserve the relationship. We also talk through the tricky situation where a friend comes to you with the same complaint over and over. How do you set limits with love? And how do you support them in moving from venting to problem-solving? Although friendship looks natural from the outside, we share honestly that it hasn’t always been effortless for us either. Amy opens up about how isolating early motherhood felt and why making new friends during that time was unexpectedly hard. If you’re in a season where friendship feels like it has to fall to the bottom of the list, Marisa offers a powerful reminder of why connection still matters—and what small steps can help bring it back to the forefront. We also dig into jealousy and competitiveness between friends, especially when life seasons change. Marisa explains how assumptions can quietly harm even our closest relationships and why approaching conversations with curiosity can shift everything. And finally, we talk about the hardest part of friendship: knowing when it’s time to end one. Should you let the relationship naturally fade or have a harder, more direct conversation? Marisa shares how to discern which path is right, and she gives guidance on something we rarely talk about—grieving a friendship breakup and giving ourselves permission to process that loss, no matter who initiated it. LINKS AND RESOURCES: Listen to HERself episode #145 Dr. Marisa Franco on the Importance of Adult Friendship; https://www.herselfpodcast.com/listen... Read Dr. Marisa Franco’s Book; Platonic: https://amzlink.to/az0lb2DLKWeWk Follow Marisa on Instagram: / drmarisagfranco Dr. Marisa’s Website: https://drmarisagfranco.com/ HERSELF PATREON: / herselfpodcast LMNT: Free Sample Pack with purchase: drinkLMNT.com/HERSELF Let’s connect! HERSELF INSTAGRAM: / herselfpodcast MEET AMY: / ameskiefer MEET ABBY: / abbyrosegreen