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There are certain conversations you know will stay with you, and my talk with Pastor Lorenzo Sewell was exactly that. He’s the lead pastor of 180 Church in Detroit, but what struck me most wasn’t just his title- it was his raw honesty about where he came from and what he believes his community truly needs. We talked about the time President Trump visited Detroit, a place no Republican president had visited since Reagan, and the prayer that surprised everyone, including Trump himself. He didn’t hold back about the state of Detroit, the challenges Black communities face, and why he believes faith and politics can’t stay separate when people are suffering. Pastor Lorenzo shared his own journey from street life to the pulpit, his unfiltered thoughts on abortion, poverty, crime, and why he refuses to change his message to fit any party’s talking points. He’s passionate, unapologetic, and committed to telling the truth- even if it costs him friends, congregation members, or personal safety. Visit https://www.vinia.com/sage to get VINIA’s special buy 2, get 1 month free offer. Now, for about $1 a day, you too can experience VINIA’s proven results, plus get 10% off any VINIA purchase. Chapters: 00:00 – Intro: From gang leader to pastor, setting up his story 01:15 – Hosting Trump at his Detroit church, audience reaction 03:00 – Poverty, crime, and human trafficking in Detroit 05:00 – Praying with Trump at rallies and at the RNC with no prepared speech 07:30 – Pressure to change his message for politics, staying authentic 09:30 – Critique of the Democratic Party’s impact on Detroit and other cities 11:00 – Personal testimony about election fraud allegations in Detroit 13:30 – Water drainage fees and local government corruption 16:00 – Discussion on abortion in Black communities and Planned Parenthood’s history 19:00 – Conversations with Black pastors about politics, money, and compromise 22:00 – Historical context: Republicans and Black voters after Reconstruction 24:30 – Immigration and serving Detroit’s Latino community 26:00 – Losing friends and church members over political honesty 28:00 – Affluent critics vs. community needs 29:30 – Organizing Juneteenth trips to DC and DOJ testimonies 31:00 – Stories of exploited voters and welfare-linked voter registration 34:00 – Grand Rapids campaign strategy and Trump’s outreach approach 36:00 – Educating Black voters about Republican Party history 38:00 – The prayer at Trump’s inauguration: content and meaning 41:00 – Emotional reflections on praying in the Rotunda 43:00 – Interactions with former Presidents Bush and Clinton after the prayer 45:00 – Criticism from both sides for invoking Dr. King 47:00 – Private prayer moments with Trump, hopes to baptize him 49:00 – Observing Trump’s growth as a man of faith 50:00 – Pastor Lorenzo’s own past: gang life and early violence 52:00 – Drug dealing years, racial identity, and moving to a white suburb 54:00 – Rock-bottom moment in Daytona Beach and first prayer 56:00 – Transformation: baptism, leaving drug dealing behind 58:00 – Becoming a pastor, confronting racism in the church 59:30 – Story of his father’s violent crimes and imprisonment 01:02:00 – Struggling with forgiveness toward his father 01:05:00 – Attempting to visit his father in prison, red tape and emotional barriers 01:08:00 – Defining forgiveness, love, and the lessons he teaches himself The Sage Steele Show is a weekly podcast hosted by former ESPN anchor Sage Steele. Each week, Sage sits down with entertainers, athletes, business people, and politicians to have deep dive personal one on one discussions that enlighten, entertain, and engage. There’s a whole big world out there that’s not just sports, and Sage wants to talk about all of it. #sagesteelepodcast #sagesteele #podcast Subscribe to the Channel for more Podcasts like this! Listen to the Show on all Podcast Apps "The Sage Steele Show" https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Follow Sage: https://www.sagesteele.com https://x.com/sagesteele / sagesteele / officialsagesteele https://rumble.com/c/SageSteeleProduc...