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Cybersecurity doesn’t just have a talent gap — it has a leadership gap. In this episode of The Cybersecurity Mentors Podcast, we sit down with Dave Berke, retired Marine Corps officer, former Top Gun instructor, and Chief Development Officer at Echelon Front, to talk about why leadership is missing across IT and cybersecurity — and why technical excellence alone is no longer enough. Dave shares lessons learned from combat aviation, military leadership, and years of teaching leadership alongside Jocko Willink — and explains why leadership is a skill that must be learned, not a trait you’re born with. In this episode, we cover: • Why the “best technician” often struggles as a leader • The leadership gap across cybersecurity and IT teams • Why leadership isn’t about titles or authority • How introverts and technical professionals can still become strong leaders • The role of humility, ownership, and teamwork in healthy security teams • How to lead from any position — even without a leadership title • Why developing leaders is the ultimate test of leadership If you work in cybersecurity, IT, engineering, or any technical field — this conversation will change how you think about your career growth. ________________________________________ Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Leadership in High-Pressure Environments 02:47 Echelon Front: Bridging the Leadership Gap 06:05 The Importance of Leadership in Technical Fields 08:55 Identifying Potential Leaders in Technical Roles 11:48 The Universal Leadership Gap Across Industries 14:58 Closing the Leadership Gap: Strategies and Solutions 17:55 Balancing Technical Skills with Leadership 20:55 The Role of Feedback in Leadership Development 23:40 Navigating Leadership Challenges in Technical Fields 26:57 Encouraging Leadership at All Levels 29:42 The Importance of Humility in Leadership 32:53 Creating a Healthy Leadership Culture 35:45 Preparing for Leadership Departure 38:51 Continuous Leadership Development 41:41 The Challenge of Ownership in Leadership 44:40 Final Thoughts on Leadership Growth ________________________________________ Recommended Resource • The Need to Lead: A TOPGUN Instructor's Lessons on How Leadership Solves Every Challenge Link: https://us.macmillan.com/books/978125... • Connect with Dave: LinkedIn: / davidrberke • Echelon Front: Instructor Profile: https://echelonfront.com/instructors/... Website: https://echelonfront.com/ ________________________________________ Connect With The Cybersecurity Mentors Podcast • Join Our Community on Skool Connect with other aspiring and experienced cybersecurity professionals, continue the conversation beyond the podcast. Link: https://www.skool.com/the-cybersecuri... ________________________________________