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@RickHanson and I discuss one of the major topics in psychology today: the tension between "mainstream" and "alternative" approaches, and how to understand evidence-based care. Using the recent IFS controversy as a backdrop, we discuss what it means for an approach to be evidence-based, the real-world dangers of inflated claims, and therapy’s complex relationship with the medical model. We get into the weeds on study design, effect sizes, insurance, why different approaches may or may not have a large body of evidence, and how to think about the research on “common factors” in therapy. Dr. Rick and I offer a simple framework for making good decisions amidst all of this complexity. Key Topics: 0:00 Introduction: the IFS article 7:27 Psychotherapy as medicine vs. personal growth practices 15:31 “Don’t know” mind versus “durrr who knows?” mind 19:50 What counts as evidence? 29:58 What does it mean for a therapy to be evidence-based? 42:38 How do we know therapy works? 53:45 Getting on your own team 59:07 Complexities with the medical model 1:10:24 How insurance and the healthcare system complicate the picture 1:18:27 Dr. Rick’s top two takeaways 1:29:05 Recap I'm not a clinician, and what I say on this channel should not be taken as medical advice. Subscribe to Being Well on: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5d87ZU1... Who Am I: I'm Forrest, the co-author of Resilient (https://amzn.to/3iXLerD) and host of the Being Well Podcast (https://apple.co/38ufGG0). I'm making videos focused on simplifying psychology, mental health, and personal growth. Subscribe to Rick on YouTube: / @rickhanson Get Rick's Free Newsletters: https://rickhanson.com/writings/newsl... Follow Rick Here: 🌍 https://rickhanson.com/ 📸 / rickhansonphd You can follow me here: 🎤 https://apple.co/38ufGG0 🌍 https://www.forresthanson.com 📸 / f.hanson