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Gary Stevenson was a trader who predicted and profited from the financial crash in 2008; suddenly he was richer than his wildest dreams, and the most depressed he’d ever been too. Quitting Citibank, he now devotes his time to educating millions via his YouTube channel and book, about the reality of why everything is costing more. So of course, I had to invite him over (and hopefully get some investment tips too…!) Gary opened up about the saddest time of his life, and how he couldn’t understand how he could feel so low whilst earning so much. We spoke about how and why he felt driven to overwork, which led to a breakdown, but at the end of it all, it’s always the people who have the least, who are the most generous. I really enjoyed chatting to Gary, although I’m still none the wiser on what to invest in! If you liked Gary, you can see more of his content here: / garyseconomics And his book here: www.penguin.co.uk/books/455809/the-trading-game-by-stevenson-gary/9781802062731 00:00 Gary arrives! 00:34 Introducing Gary Stevenson 01:21 What’s Gary’s relationship with money now? 02:40 Gary’s starting salary at 21 was £400,000 03:50 On not having to check what’s in your supermarket trolley 05:44 The more money Gary made, the more MAD he got 07:50 Nobody believes that you’re unhappy when you’re making loads of money 09:00 Gary opens up about being threatened by his boss in Japan 12:30 Being too stressed to be stressed 14:00 SAD 15:25 “That’s called disassociation” 16:00 When depression looks like numbness 17:30 Food banks shouldn’t need to exist 20:47 BAD 21:00 Writing characters as authentically good AND bad 22:40 Is everyone just selfish? 25:00 Karaoke culture in Japan 27:27 GLAD 29:33 Really good people exist #GARYSTEVENSON #PALOMAFAITH #MADSADBAD — Find us on: Instagram / / madsadbadpodcast TikTok / / madsadbadpodcast — Credits: Producer: Jemima Rathbone Assistant Producer: Magda Cassidy Edit Producer: Pippa Brown Editor: Shane O'Byrne Video: Jake Ji & Lizzie McCarthy Video Editor: Josh Bennett Senior Social Media Manager: Laura Coughlan Original music: BUTCH PIXY Exec Producer: Jemima Rathbone Exec Producers for Idle Industries: Dave Granger & Will Macdonald