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This video features an interview with V.S. Navamani, who discusses the political history and ideology of Pasumpon Muthuramalinga Thevar. He clarifies misconceptions about Thevar's legacy, particularly the famous quote attributed to him regarding "Nationalism and Divinity." Navamani argues that Thevar was not a caste-based leader but a nationalist who included people from various communities in his political party, the Forward Bloc. He details how Thevar gave political opportunities to marginalized communities, including Dalits (Devendra Kula Vellalars and Arunthathiyars), Nadars, and Saurashtrians. The interview also touches on the relationship between Thevar and Kamarajar, specifically addressing the story of how Thevar helped Kamarajar become eligible to stand for elections by buying a goat to pay taxes, a story Navamani insists is true despite recent attempts to deny it. Timestamps [00:00] Introduction: The speaker states that Thevar is often wrongly portrayed as a caste leader due to the influence of Dravidian movements, whereas he was a nationalist leader. [02:11] Not a Caste Leader: Navamani emphasizes that Thevar never identified himself as a leader of a specific caste and that such branding is a result of political manipulation by Dravidian parties. [03:29] Inclusivity in Forward Bloc: Details on how Thevar's Forward Bloc included members from various communities like Naidus, Brahmins, and Dalits, with specific examples of leaders he promoted. [06:23] Empowering Marginalized Communities: Discussion on how Thevar was the first to field an Arunthathiyar candidate for the legislative assembly and his support for Devendra Kula Vellalar leaders. [09:45] Support for Saurashtrians: Navamani explains Thevar's support for the Saurashtra community, particularly during the Knitting Company strike where he led the workers' struggle. [14:04] The "Gag Order" (Vaypoottu Sattam): Explanation of the gag order placed on Thevar by the British government, similar to the one placed on Bal Gangadhar Tilak, and how he overcame it through direct engagement with people. [17:37] Clarification on the Famous Quote: Navamani clarifies that the quote "Nationalism and Divinity are my two eyes" was actually said by M.G. Ramachandran (MGR) about Thevar, not by Thevar himself. Thevar's actual philosophy was "Nationalism is the body, Divinity is the life." [19:53] The Kamarajar Election Story: A detailed account of how Thevar helped Kamarajar meet the property tax requirement to stand for elections in 1936 by buying a goat in his name, refuting claims that this story is false or demeaning.