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On today’s episode, Girlfriends and Forever creator Mara Brock Akil joins Michelle and Craig to talk about her incredible career, and how her children have inspired her current projects. The group discusses navigating the teen and early adult years, giving their teenagers more freedom, and figuring out how to build and improve on your personal foundation. Plus, Mara spills on the possibility of a Girlfriends movie! 00:00:00 Welcome to Martha’s Vineyard 00:01:30 Introducing Mara Brock Akil — Creator of Girlfriends & Being Mary Jane 00:04:00 Mara on Meeting Michelle & Finding Home on the Vineyard 00:06:30 The Power of Black Joy & Safety in Community Spaces 00:08:30 Mara’s Brother and the Sacred Bond of Siblings 00:12:00 Michelle & Craig Reflect on Their Own Brother–Sister Dynamic 00:16:00 Parenting Without Competition: Raising Individuals, Not Rivals 00:20:00 Dinner Table Lessons: Storytelling, Debate, and Connection 00:23:00 Raising Black Boys: Emotional Intelligence & Protection 00:27:00 Craig on When Society Starts Seeing Black Boys as Threats 00:29:30 Family Conversations Sparked by Mara’s Show Forever 00:33:00 Parenting Through Fear vs. Trust: Letting Kids Fall and Grow 00:36:00 Mara’s Staying Power: Purpose, Passion & 400 Episodes Later 00:38:30 Creating Space for Black Storytellers — Mara’s Writers’ Colony 00:39:30 Listener Question: Breaking Generational Expectations 00:41:30 Letting Go of Guilt and Trusting the Next Generation 00:45:00 “Their Math Problem, Not Yours”: Rethinking Parenting Logic 00:46:30 The Future of Girlfriends: Why a Movie Needs to Happen 00:50:00 Mara on Closure, Faith & the Stories Still to Come 00:52:00 Michelle, Craig & Mara Close with Love and Laughter Subscribe to IMO with Michelle Obama & Craig Robinson on YouTube: Have a question for the show? Let us know at IMOpod.com Follow us on social! Instagram: www.instagram.com/imopodcasts TikTok: / imopodcasts Facebook: / imopodcasts X: https://x.com/imopodcasts About IMO with Michelle Obama & Craig Robinson Michelle Obama and her big brother Craig Robinson bring their unique experiences and candid perspectives to a range of personal dilemmas, from the everyday to the existential. Each week, they’re joined by a special guest to tackle audience questions with practical advice, terrific stories, and plenty of laughs. From dating and relationships to parenting and financial planning, IMO sees the iconic First Lady at her most relaxed and honest. This podcast will leave you laughing, reflecting, and feeling more prepared to tackle life’s challenges. About Michelle Obama Michelle’s passion for storytelling has set sales records, garnered awards and accolades, and earned her global acclaim. Her memoir, Becoming, spent over 130 weeks on the New York Times Bestsellers list, sold more than 17 million copies worldwide, and won a Grammy Award. American Factory, the first film produced by her and her husband Barack Obama’s media company Higher Ground, won the Academy Award for Best Documentary in 2020. Upon its release in 2020, The Michelle Obama Podcast was the most successful original in Spotify history, bringing in more women listeners over 40 than any other podcast. Through the Obama Foundation, she founded the Girls Opportunity Alliance, which supports adolescent girls' education and empowerment around the world. Follow Michelle Obama on Instagram: / michelleobama Follow Michelle Obama on Facebook: / michelleobama Follow Michelle Obama on X: https://x.com/MichelleObama About Craig Robinson Craig is the Executive Director of the National Association of Basketball Coaches (NABC) and host of the Higher Ground podcast Ways To Win with Hall of Fame coach John Calipari. From 2017-2020, he served as the vice president of Player Development and Minor League Operations for the NBA’s New York Knicks. Previously, he was a Division I head men’s basketball coach at Oregon State and Brown, and spent more than a decade working as a trader in the investment banking industry. Most importantly, he is a husband and father of four. Follow Craig Robinson on X: https:/x.com/craigmalrob Follow Craig Robinson on Instagram: / craigmalrob About Higher Ground Higher Ground was founded by President Barack Obama and Michelle Obama in 2018 to tell powerful stories that entertain, inform, and inspire—while elevating new and diverse voices in the entertainment industry. Learn more at https://highergroundmedia.com/ Follow Higher Ground on Instagram: instagram.com/highergroundmedia Follow Higher Ground on X: https://x.com/HGMedia