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We are thrilled to have had the opportunity to sit down with these two great minds and talk about protein, processed foods, the current food environment, modern-day dietary challenges, and health implications. The work by professors Stephen Simpson and David Raubenheimer has been a major inspiration for us. Their work on the Protein Leverage Hypothesis has been instrumental in developing the satiety score, especially the role of protein in it. Enjoy! Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 01:01 - How David and Stephen got started 02:45 - From studying bugs to nutrition 05:07 - Developing the Protein Leverage Hypothesis 10:44 - How this could change the world 14:15 - Why protein is critical to reaching satiety 16:17 - Why we need more protein today 18:17 - Reactions from scientists and other findings 23:40 - The protein decoy problem 26:34 - Do we all need to be expert protein calculators? 29:45 - Does Satiety Per Calorie work with our biology? 33:20 - The cost of protein at the cost of health 36:28 - What could happen if you have too much protein? 39:05 - The role of aging and protein tradeoffs 40:57 - How high is too high? 45:39 - What about calcium and sodium? 47:02 - How could our approach be even better? 49:25 - The potential of the satiety approach 🎧 Listen on: Apple Podcasts — https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Spotify — https://open.spotify.com/show/0XC1l67... 🌐 Try Hava: https://www.hava.co Subscribe to our channel to stay updated on more satiety insights: / @hava 🔔 Stay connected with Hava Instagram: / joinhava Twitter: / joinhava Facebook: / joinhava.co