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Shadow IT has evolved. Now it’s Shadow SaaS. Shadow AI. And it’s everywhere. In this week's episode of the KuppingerCole Analyst Chat, Matthias welcomes Matthew Gardiner for his first appearance to unpack one of the fastest-growing security domains: SaaS Security Posture Management (SSPM) and why that name may already be too narrow. Today’s organizations run on hundreds of SaaS applications. Many are sanctioned. Many aren’t. Some are connected via OAuth. Others are quietly leaking data through AI tools. And most security teams don’t have full visibility. In this conversation, we explore: ✅ What SSPM actually means (and why the “PM” might be limiting) ✅ How Shadow IT evolved into Shadow SaaS and Shadow AI ✅ The intersection of identity and cybersecurity in SaaS environments ✅ Misconfiguration risks, MFA bypass, OAuth sprawl & SaaS drift ✅ Why continuous monitoring beats periodic audits ✅ CASB vs SSPM vs CNAPP — where the lines blur ✅ The growing governance challenge in AI-powered SaaS ✅ Why SaaS security can’t be ignored anymore 00:00 Introduction 01:49 Understanding SSPM and Its Importance 05:26 The Evolution of Shadow IT to Shadow SaaS and Shadow AI 11:03 Misconfigurations and Their Impact on Security 16:35 The Need for Continuous Monitoring in SaaS Security 22:03 Navigating the Complexities of SaaS Security 27:50 Leadership Compass and Future Directions 📌 If your organization uses SaaS (spoiler: it does), this discussion is not optional. #SaaSSecurity #SSPM #ShadowAI #ShadowSaaS #CloudSecurity #IdentitySecurity #IAM #AISecurity #ZeroTrust #CyberSecurity #AnalystChat #KuppingerCole Subscribe to our podcast! Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/ku... Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3leKXJ9... Deezer: https://www.deezer.com/us/show/1848172 TuneIn: https://tunein.com/podcasts/Technolog... info@kuppingercole.com www.kuppingercole.com Follow us on social media: Facebook: / kuppingercole Twitter: / kuppingercole LinkedIn: / kuppingercole Instagram: / kuppingercole