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Alastair and Rory are joined by Moises Naim, journalist and former Venezuelan minister. Is this the end of democracy in the USA? Following the election of Trump, could democracy in America die? How did Moises Naim come up with his three p’s; Populism, Polarisation, and Post-truth? 00:00 – Introducing Moisés Naím 00:45 – The Three Ps: Populism, Polarization, Post-Truth 01:34 – From Libya to Venezuela: A Global Journey 03:38 – The Criminals Are Winning 04:54 – The End of Power: Easier to Get, Harder to Keep 06:05 – The Five Illicit Wars Governments Lost 07:01 – The Kremlin as a Criminal Cartel? 07:57 – Why Latin American Democracy Keeps Collapsing 10:06 – Naím’s Personal Story 11:12 – Chávez: The Autocrat in Democratic Clothing 15:26 – Could U.S. Democracy Fall Too? 17:51 – If the Government Ignores the Law, What Then? 19:00 – The Crisis of Political Parties and Followership 21:10 – Can Resistance Even Work? 22:13 – Britain: The Unexpected Victim of the 3 Ps 24:15 – Why Do Bad Populist Governments Keep Winning? 25:08 – A Global Failure of Followership 26:00 – What’s Happening to Us? Even the Smart Are Confused 27:08 – AI Is Civilisational: We Know It’s Big, But Not How 28:02 – Trump’s Consistent Beliefs: Tariffs, Strongmen, and Allies 29:03 – Tariffs, Lies, and the Machinery of Populist Power 30:35 – The Power Behind the Post-Truth Lies 31:01 – Bilateralism vs Multilateralism 32:30 – Why the UN Doesn’t Work—But 5 Nations Might 33:13 – Consensus Without Action: The New Global Norm 34:15 – Europe’s Response to the Ukraine War 35:33 – The Three Ps Explained for the World 39:06 – Social Media and the Rise of the Post-Truth Populist 41:03 – Democracy vs Dictatorship: The New Global Battle TRIP Plus: Become a member of The Rest Is Politics Plus to support the podcast, receive our exclusive newsletter, enjoy ad-free listening to both TRIP and Leading, benefit from discount book prices on titles mentioned on the pod, join our Discord chatroom, and receive early access to live show tickets and Question Time episodes. Just head to therestispolitics.com to sign up, or start a free trial today on Apple Podcasts: apple.co/therestispolitics. Video Editor: Josh Smith Assistant Producer: Alice Horrell Social Producer: Harry Balden Producer: Nicole Maslen Senior Producer: Dom Johnson Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport