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In this episode, Mo Echout and Steve Johnston are joined by Attila Márton to explore how ecological thinking can help us better understand the digital world. Together, they discuss the concept of digital ecology, a framework for viewing digital ecosystems as living, interconnected systems shaped by human behavior, AI, and social media. The conversation dives into vulnerability, resilience, and the dangers of maximization in business and technology. Attila shares deep insights on how AI reshapes modern life, why curiosity matters more than control, and how we can build a more sustainable relationship with technology. 💡 What You'll Learn • What digital ecology means and why it matters • How ecological principles can guide digital innovation • Why understanding vulnerability leads to stronger systems • The hidden effects of social media on human interaction • How maximization can harm both nature and technology • Why collaboration is key to thriving in the digital future 📈 Key Takeaways • Digital ecology applies ecological principles to the digital world • Vulnerability and resilience define healthy ecosystems • AI often drives profit maximization without full awareness of its impact • Social media is reshaping human communication • Learning enough is essential in an age of excess • Collaboration creates more resilient digital systems ⏱️ Chapters 00:00 – Introduction to Digital Ecology 03:42 – Understanding Digital Ecosystems 06:48 – The Complexity of Digitalization 09:27 – Vulnerability in Digital Participation 12:03 – Ecological Principles in Business 14:54 – The Impact of Social Media on Society 17:24 – Addressing Symptoms vs. Root Causes 20:10 – The Interconnectedness of Systems 22:52 – The Role of Human Behavior in Ecosystems 25:27 – Reflections on Digital Ecology 27:16 – The Nature of Disturbances 29:00 – Ecosystems and Collaborative Advantage 30:36 – The Role of AI in Business 32:54 – Understanding Disturbances in the Digital Age 38:06 – Navigating Fear and Curiosity in Innovation 42:49 – The Future of AI and Human Behavior 🔊 Sound Bites “We are not in charge.” “We need to take care of each other.” “We are part of the world we live in.” 🔑 Keywords: Digital Ecology, AI, Ecosystems, Vulnerability, Social Media, Maximization, Resilience, Human Behavior, Technology, Future 👇 Connect with Us: 🎙️ Guest – Attila Márton 💼 / attila-m%c3%a1rton-b4ab8214 🎧 Mo Echout – Podcast Co-Host 🌐 https://linktr.ee/Mohamed.Echout 💼 / mohamed-echout 🐦 / mechout 🎧 Steve Johnston - Podcast Co-Host | Digital Optimizer | Serial Entrepreneur | Ecosystem Builder 💼 / steve-johnston 🌐 https://steveondigital.com/ 📺 / @steveondigital 📸 / steveondigital 💬 / steveondigital 🐦 / steveondigital1 💼 / steveondigital-digital-transformation-simp... 📺 / @steveondigital 🚀 StemJee - Strategy & Digital Solutions 🌐 https://stemjee.com/ 💬 / stemjee 📸 / stemjee 💼 / stemjee-inc. 🎓 Loreeya - Online Education Platform for Entrepreneurs 🌐 https://loreeya.com/ 📸 / loreeya_platform 👍 If you enjoyed this conversation, please LIKE, COMMENT, and SUBSCRIBE for more real stories and thought-provoking insights from innovators shaping the future of tech. 🔔 Don't forget to hit the bell to stay notified about new episodes. #DigitalEcology #AI #Technology #Ecosystems #Resilience #Vulnerability #SocialMedia #HumanBehavior #Innovation #Future #MakeTechWork #Podcast #entrepreneurship