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What does it truly take to lead security and GRC in today's complex, high-stakes environments? It's about much more than just technology—it's about building trust, creating champions, and acting as an enabler, not a blocker. In this powerful episode, we sit down with Winthrop Welch, a seasoned Fractional CISO and Cybersecurity Advisor. With their extensive experience, we'll dive into the real-world lessons learned from bridging the gap between security teams and the rest of the business, and how to turn GRC from a requirement into a strategic advantage. Read the transcript: https://www.scaletozero.com/episodes/... 00:00 Teaser and Introduction 07:24 Security and Compliance Debate 09:55 How are Security and Compliance not different from each other? 11:17 Security challenges evolved over the years - from data centers to AI 14:10 Challenges of aligning security strategies within enterprises 16:53 Tips to build trust and create security champions 21:00 How do you support and educate others around you? 23:05 How have security engineering and leadership roles helped you evolve? 25:35 Security teams working closely with other business teams 28:45 Security leaders being open to security teams 31:40 GRC maturity levels in organizations today 34:50 Implementing GRCs more efficiently 38:32 Reducing friction between security and other business teams 42:48 Security teams as enablers and not blockers 47:49 Scenario where your leadership was tested 53:23 Summary 54:16 Learning recommendations