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Chapters 00:00 Wrestling Legends: Cena vs. Hogan 02:48 The Evolution of Wrestling Eras 06:00 Defining Superstars vs. Wrestlers 08:58 Mount Rushmore of Wrestling 11:59 Honorable Mentions and Criteria 14:53 The Impact of Iconic Matches 18:00 The Great Debate: Randy Orton vs. Stone Cold 21:00 Final Thoughts and Wrap-Up 00:00 Intro + instant Hogan vs Cena debate 01:30 How everyone got into wrestling (VHS, SmackDown, PPV watch parties) 04:15 Ruthless Aggression vs Attitude Era: which was the real peak? 07:30 Defining the eras (1997–2002 vs 2002–2008) 08:30 Superstar vs wrestler: gimmick, mic skills, or ring talent? 11:30 Mount Rushmore criteria + honorable mentions start 12:15 CM Punk case (relatable, “Best in the World,” Summer of Punk) 13:55 First Mount Rushmore lists (Rock/Cena/Orton/Stone Cold etc.) 15:00 Roman Reigns argument: Bloodline + COVID-era WWE 18:15 Hulk Hogan debate gets real (impact vs preference) 24:10 Triple H vs Shawn Michaels discussion 30:00 Jeff Hardy debate (iconic matches vs “crash dummy” label) 38:25 Who gets cut? Roman vs legacy names 45:40 Randy Orton vs Stone Cold showdown 59:10 Final Mount Rushmore + honorable mentions A crew of wrestling fans debates which era was truly the peak — Attitude Era (1997–2002) vs Ruthless Aggression (2002–2008) — and breaks down what separates a superstar from a wrestler. Along the way, they build a fan-driven Mount Rushmore of WWE using real criteria: mic skills, in-ring talent, iconic matches, crowd control, titles, merch, and cultural impact. The discussion heats up around Hulk Hogan’s legacy, whether John Cena’s run clears Hogan, and how Roman Reigns and The Bloodline helped carry WWE through the COVID era. The biggest debate of the episode? Randy Orton vs Stone Cold for that final Mount Rushmore spot — with arguments about athleticism, storylines, iconic moments, and overall influence. Takeaways John Cena's career is often compared to Hulk Hogan's, with many believing Cena's impact is greater. The transition from the attitude era to the ruthless aggression era marked a significant change in wrestling. Superstars are defined by their marketability, while wrestlers are defined by their in-ring skills. The Mount Rushmore of wrestling is subjective and varies among fans. Iconic matches play a crucial role in defining a wrestler's legacy. Randy Orton's RKO is considered more iconic than Stone Cold's stunner by some fans. The bloodline storyline featuring Roman Reigns has been pivotal for WWE during challenging times. CM Punk's influence on wrestling is still felt today, with many fans considering him one of the best. Wrestling storytelling is essential for engaging fans and creating memorable moments. Hulk Hogan's impact on wrestling cannot be overlooked, despite personal opinions about him.