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D&C 132 - Joseph Smith's Polygamy "Revelation" | Ep. 1676 | LDS Discussions Ep. 25

Today’s episode continues the discussion on Polygamy with the (in)famous revelation still canonized in Mormon/LDS scripture as Section 132 of the Doctrine & Covenants. Mike sets up the historical & personal context of the timing of this revelation and the problematic ideas presented in it as coming from God including how God views women, redefining adultery and other moral issues, and the various rules and justifications given by God to practice polygamy. Mike goes on to show that Joseph admits himself that polygamy is something he wanted, and despite being the receiver of the various specific rules defined by God, he nevertheless proceeds to break every one of them. Finally, Mike goes over the many apologetics around this section of the Doctrine & Covenants and the problems with most of the arguments attempting to justify the revelation, Joseph’s polygamy, and the resulting polygamy among many of the branches of Mormonism, some continuing to this day. Special Guest: Elisha Lee Faith Unraveled Tiktok: tiktok.com/@faith.unraveled Soul Unraveled Tiktok tiktok.com/@soul.unraveled LDS Discussions Essay on Polygamy: http://ldsdiscussions.com/polygamy LDS Discussions Playlist:    • Joseph Smith and Treasure Digging | Ep. 15...   00:00:00 Introduction 00:14:40 A quick recap of how D&C 132 was produced 00:18:00 A few problems off the bat with D&C 132 00:28:20 The very first D&C 132 contradicts the Book of Mormon 00:30:30 D&C 132 seeks to turn morality upside down with polygamy 00:32:10 D&C 132 misrepresents the Bible to justify Joseph’s polygamy 00:42:05 Joseph creates a problem to sell you a solution 00:45:30 Joseph concedes that it was Joseph himself that wanted polygamy 00:51:20 Joseph redefines adultery in D&C 132 00:53:00 Reflections on the inclusion of the word “concubine” 00:56:30 Every polyandrous marriage violates D&C 132:41 01:05:15 Wives (and children) of unfaithful men will be “given to another” 01:16:10 Joseph Fielding Smith expands on D&C 132 01:20:40 Joseph can use discernment to “give” women to other men 01:22:30 God endorses literally anything Joseph Smith decides to do 01:28:30 God rescinds whatever offer Joseph Smith made to Emma 01:31:40 God commands Emma to accept the women “given to” joseph 01:37:50 Emma must stick with Joseph Smith or else be destroyed 01:43:25 God grants Emma a Quid Pro Quo to forgive Joseph Smith 01:47:40 God invoking very similar language to Joseph’s own from 1841 01:49:40 God forbids property to be given to Emma 01:53:50 God writes Joseph Smith a blank check 01:56:20 The Law of Sarah and getting specific about polygamy 02:00:10 Women that Joseph Smith had married before D&C 132 02:08:25 Women are given to men to make babies 02:12:00 Women must accept polygamy or be destroyed 02:12:50 God revokes the Law of Sarah just four verses after creating it 02:24:45 God (through Joseph) leaves the door open for more revelation 02:26:35 Ways that Joseph Smith violates his own revelation 02:31:30 Apologetics on D&C 132: :God wasn’t specific enough 02:34:45 God tells us that D&C 132 is clear and from a “house of order” 02:35:00 More very clear rules from God in D&C 132 02:36:50 Joseph Smith: The Reluctant Polygamist 02:42:15 The revelation almost feels like two revelations in one 02:44:00 What the church cites from D&C 132 in the 2021 CFM manual 02:48:30 D&C 132 is still the doctrine of the church 02:52:00 Dallin Oaks jokes about a woman worrying about eternal polygamy 02:56:20 Conclusion on D&C 132 Episode Show Notes: https://www.mormonstories.org/podcast... LDS Discussions 6-part Polygamy Series:    • An Introduction to Mormon Polygamy | Ep. 1...   LDS Discussions Playlist:    • Joseph Smith and Treasure Digging | Ep. 15...   _________________________ LDS Discussions is made possible by generous donors! Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: One-time or recurring donations: https://donorbox.org/mormon-stories?d... Patreon:   / mormonstories   Amazon Smile: Be sure to select “Mormon Stories” website: https://smile.amazon.com app: https://amz.run/5r2M LDS Discussions Platforms: Website & Essays: https://www.ldsdiscussions.com Anchor: https://anchor.fm/lds-discussions Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2UkFsqY... YouTube Playlist on Mormon Stories Podcast:    • LDS Discussions - An Examination of Mormon...   LDS Discussions on Social Media: Twitter: twitter.com/ldsdiscussions Facebook: facebook.com/ldsdiscussion Insta: instagram.com/ldsdiscussions Contact Mormon Stories: MormonStories@gmail.com PO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117 Mormon Stories on Social Media: Instagram:   / mormstories   TikTok:   / mormonstoriespodcast   Discord:   / discord