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Trinitarian vs. Oneness: The Cult War for the Nature of God | Chino Ross | Episode 404

John and Chino explore the confusion and contradictions surrounding the doctrine of the Trinity in the teachings of William Branham and Hobart Freeman. They begin by addressing how both figures used shifting theological language depending on audience or circumstance, manipulating definitions to present themselves as having unique spiritual insight. John shares quotes showing Branham alternated between affirming and condemning Trinitarian language, while Chino recounts how Hobart created his own definition that was neither Trinitarian nor Oneness—confusing followers and critics alike. The discussion exposes how both leaders sought to appear distinct from mainstream Christianity in order to build loyal followings. Chino reflects on Hobart Freeman’s doctrinal evolution, tracing his shift from Baptist orthodoxy to a blend of Oneness ideas, mysticism, and cultic authoritarianism. The hosts connect these teachings to broader movements, such as the United Pentecostal Church and figures like David Terrell, highlighting how legalism and experiential mysticism were passed down and rebranded across generations. The discussion touches on theological manipulation, plagiarism from earlier revivalists, doctrinal legalism, racial motivations behind certain Godhead claims, and the influence of early 20th-century American religious extremism. Ultimately, they emphasize the dangers of redefining theology around personal authority rather than Scripture, and the way such teachings are used to isolate and control groups of followers. 00:00 Introduction 1:01 Setting up the Trinity discussion 2:05 Freeman’s shifting definitions of the Trinity 5:09 Freeman’s influences from Branham and Oneness ministers 8:56 Comparing David Terrell’s and Freeman’s cult distinctives 13:16 Terrell’s Oneness stance and segue to Trinity focus 14:11 Branham’s contradictions on the Trinity 17:04 Branham’s “God-man” teaching and its dangers 18:00 Freeman’s plagiarism and influence from Branham 20:25 Freeman acknowledging Branham’s errors but keeping him as “prophet” 23:10 Freeman’s background and denominational shifts 24:48 Early church creed and initial orthodox Trinity view 27:11 Heavy focus on legalism in Freeman’s early writings 30:06 Freeman’s early baptismal mode and formula 33:32 Historical roots of triple immersion baptism 34:22 Origin of “bobbed hair” teaching and Klan connections 35:11 Growing up under contradictory teachings 38:56 Branham declaring both Trinity and Oneness wrong 39:28 How this created cult extremism and isolation 43:07 Freeman’s personal struggle over baptismal formula 45:56 Use of mystical “revelations” in cult theology 47:00 Freeman’s “Teaching on the Godhead” contradictions 50:53 Logical errors and law of non-contradiction in Freeman’s teaching 52:10 Importance of historic councils in defining the Trinity 54:55 Branham’s manipulation of baptismal formula logic 56:24 Klan propaganda influencing anti-Trinity rhetoric 58:53 Historical reality of the Council of Nicaea 1:00:07 Branham’s late-life comments on racial segregation in Pentecostalism 1:01:14 Freeman’s inconsistent labeling of Oneness as heresy 1:02:18 Cult leaders using “unique” doctrines to attract and keep followers 1:03:07 Former Terrell follower’s independent Bible study to truth 1:05:07 Correct biblical approach to understanding the Trinity 1:06:03 Summary of Freeman’s theological confusion and Branham’s influence 1:06:27 The divisive purpose behind these teachings 1:08:21 Historical racial divisions in Pentecostalism and Branham’s comments 1:09:20 Closing remarks and resources ______________________ Weaponized Religion: From Christian Identity to the NAR: Paperback: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1735160962 Kindle: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DCGGZX3K ______________________ – Support the channel:   / branham   – Subscribe to the channel:    / @leavingthemessage   – Visit the website: https://william-branham.org – Follow on Facebook:   / williambranhamorg   – Follow on TikTok:   / william.m.branham   – Follow on Twitter:   / wmbhr   – Buy the books: https://william-branham.org/site/books