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To listen to more of Julia Hartwig’s stories, go to the playlist: • Julia Hartwig (Poet) Julia Hartwig (1921-2017) was a Polish poet, essayist, translator and author of children's books. She studied at universities in Warsaw, Lublin and Kraków. Czesław Miłosz called her 'the grande dame of Polish poetry'. [Listener: Andrzej Wolski; date recorded: 2010] TRANSCRIPT: So it was at his place and he'd prepared a long table and invited quite a few guests while Artur, in order to please me, seated the guests and placed me next to Brodski and to this day, I'm still grateful to him for that, because this gave me the chance to talk with him as he could say quite a lot in Polish but actually we spoke in English because that was a transitional language for him. But he was very glad when there was something in Polish, after all he translated Polish poetry and he understood quite a lot of Polish but not enough to speak it. So we talked about all kinds of things, where he was currently living, how he'd settled down, where he was lecturing – there are plenty of things you can ask him, Brodski. And, I don't know why, we got onto the subject of music, and I suddenly asked him in relation to music, I said, 'Can I ask, do you have a favourite composer?' He said, 'Yes, of course. It's Haydn, imprevisible, he's... unpredictable, unforeseeable'. And this was for me... oh, I was so pleased, it made me really happy. As a sign of this, this kind of shared kinship, at the table only of course, he suddenly reached into his pocket – after our conversation he was a bit more relaxed with me as he was generally not very trusting – and he pulled out a photograph, saying, 'I'll show you a photo of my wife but please don't let anyone see that you're looking at it'. So I held it on my lap and there I saw a very beautiful young person, with flowing hair holding a child in her arms, and this was his little daughter. This was very moving because this is... in addition the photo was also very lovely, his wife was beautiful and I was pleased that I'd been allowed to share this small confidence, fleeting, but a momentary... a moment can be enjoyed, too.